The Problems with TotJO

Edan wrote: I would suggest that any conversation regarding an individual should probably kept to PM..

I normally would agree with you there Edan, in this case I have to disagree. He's taken this to my twitter and my art page on Facebook, two places it does not belong. If he has definitive proof somone has plagiarized his work, he should to provide it and cease with the drama...

Edan wrote: I would suggest that any conversation regarding an individual should probably kept to PM..

Thank you for your suggestion , but NO , he took this in the public domain , he now has to face the consequences that go with that , we all learn from eachother here , we also have to learn to bare the responsibilties of what we post here,

MartaLina wrote:

Edan wrote: I would suggest that any conversation regarding an individual should probably kept to PM..

Thank you for your suggestion , but NO , he took this in the public domain , he now has to face the consequences that go with that , we all learn from eachother here , we also have to learn to bare the responsibilties of what we post here,

Easy killer, think the point was made. No sense in stamping the argument into the ground...

Zenchi wrote:

MartaLina wrote:

Edan wrote: I would suggest that any conversation regarding an individual should probably kept to PM..

Thank you for your suggestion , but NO , he took this in the public domain , he now has to face the consequences that go with that , we all learn from eachother here , we also have to learn to bare the responsibilties of what we post here,

Easy killer, think the point was made. No sense in stamping the argument into the ground...

Yeah you are right , Sorry Edan , you made a good point ...

This seems to be a real concern of yours. I would like to let you know that the only place to really protect your intellectual property is offline. However, it can't be shared and appreciated that way. Yes, there is a risk involved in sharing work online, but there is also the simple fact that this is how we opperate. There is no true security on the internet.

how would the council feel about allowing dude to write his journal and IP through emails to a potential teaching mentor?

im sure theres a knight somewhere who would be ok with taking an apprentice via email and chat?

uh, sorry if im overstepping

So what happens when other knights need to check it?

The teaching/sharing method doesnt change from IP to apprenticeship and beyond. The space for it does though

@Roz, ok yeah, that makes sense

@FTPC: there is a date and time indicator for every post and i guess you could email your entries to yourself or take pictures of them and save them on your computer or to a flash drive or something.
im pretty sure that would be adequate legal protection for you if anyone ever did plagiarize your work.

FTPC wrote: I have been here for two years, My problem with Tojo is Journal Security,
they need to better Journal Security around here. keyword NEED

What kind of security are you suggesting?

If people are really worried about their intellectual property, it's pretty easy to prove it so here's my 2¢ for if someone wants to go a full nine on academic property:

1. the author needs to properly cite their own sources so that readers citing it won't unintentionally plagiarize
2. make an offline copy of your work with a timestamp and then lock editing on it. Any later additions can be made into a separate document with a later timestamp.
3. although I haven't seen (there might be one that I just didn't notice) an explicit rule against using someone else's work here, I've always assumed it to be one. Maybe we add it into the site's T&C
4. upon "ranking up" an author will have their relevant work checked for plagiarism against both other people's work here and just in general (there's quite a few tools for checking originality online). Maybe have knights delegate that duty to their apprentices since there'll be quite a bit of it

In general though, there's very little motivation to plagiarize material, so it seems like a non-issue.
In general, it's rather immature to just complain about something if you don't have proof its an issue or a solution to it.