Do we hide behind our titles? Thoughts?

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06 Oct 2017 21:11 #303249 by
Hey Temple,

Now that you mention it, the richest people I have met are not hiding behind their status or titles. They can just be themselves and leave their heightened sense of self out of the picture and allow their friends and co-workers to share in the richness of their personality. Such as that air of superiority that doesn't let people connect with who we are, when the occasion is formal those that cannot let their hair down and behave without that uniform official ranking, will eventually become anal about their badges of honor and separated from that humanness.

Thanks for giving me that insight

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07 Oct 2017 18:22 #303366 by

Manu wrote: "Time in the community" is your title, it can be used to offer perspective on the fact that you've been around long enough to notice what works and what doesn't. But if you try to use it in lieu of a proper argument, it comes off as posturing and ego. It becomes misused.


You're right. You're absolutely right. It was a mistake for me to use that argument, and I apologize for it. Time is an illusion. Experience is not. One can come to learn how to be a Jedi in a day. Others might take a lifetime. I suppose my point was that I'm experienced, but it has nothing to do with years. I don't mean that to sound like I'm better than others, but rather that I have a certain level of experience, more or less than certain people. But more than most, given than Jediism─or Jedi Realism─is relatively in its infancy. Again, I mean that not as a statement of stature, but of fact. I can honestly state the fact that I saw the birth of Jedi Realism and then Jediism, and that there aren't many people left here that did. That's all.

Anyway, as for the "map" metaphor, I was making a Zen statement. I think Zen practitioners would say that there is no map, only the reality of life.

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07 Oct 2017 20:38 #303383 by

Streen wrote:
Anyway, as for the "map" metaphor, I was making a Zen statement. I think Zen practitioners would say that there is no map, only the reality of life.



*Remembers koan training* *pretends to read a map* *bows in recognition of your buddha nature* *continues to sip on tea* :P

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07 Oct 2017 23:10 #303398 by OB1Shinobi

Streen wrote: Anyway, as for the "map" metaphor, I was making a Zen statement. I think Zen practitioners would say that there is no map, only the reality of life.



Which is all well and good if youre a monk meditating in an isolated temple living off of what you grow and what the villagers give you for charity. But modern people dealing with real life often have to reach specific destinations. At which times, maps become invaluable.
We also have to achieve specific outcomes (such as finding a job or losing weigth) at which times, learning the real life tactics that others used to achieve the outcomes we are after (which is the same principle of using a map) is invaluable.

People are complicated.
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10 Oct 2017 03:38 #303623 by Manu

Streen wrote: You're right. You're absolutely right.


Meesa liken dis. :laugh

Streen wrote: I mean that not as a statement of stature, but of fact.


You have a lot to show us. Your longevity in the community is a great asset. Use it. The opportunity is there, if you are willing to polish your approach. I know you'll figure it out Aaron.

The pessimist complains about the wind;
The optimist expects it to change;
The realist adjusts the sails.
- William Arthur Ward
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10 Oct 2017 13:41 - 10 Oct 2017 13:44 #303640 by Carlos.Martinez3
Time is an illusion. Experience is not.


With my experience I find time like Einstein said is absolute and there ARE difrent variables of time as with everything. My personal Jedi ism can't agree that time is an illusion. It CAN be an illusion to some and have no merit for this or others can benifit from one definition of it on a mechanical sense or multiple definitions as seasons and rings in a tree. Experience CAN be benifishal to every one and harmful to some. Nothing wrong . Just my two cents. I didn't say , your wrong I didn't say I'm right , not my cup of tea , I did say there are difrent definitions and possibilities IN action... kinna like the IP , we only show what some have done and can do not ... do like them and not like others. Let others choose. I think if we as a cummunity can grasp that that's ... experience points that CAN be worth having .then ... what type of title would that be ... hmm

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10 Oct 2017 17:22 - 10 Oct 2017 17:27 #303660 by OB1Shinobi
That line caught my eye too, Carlos. Since you also noticed it enough to mention it, i guess i will ask...

If time is an illusion, why does it kill us?
If experience is not (an illusion), why does it so often mislead us?

People are complicated.
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10 Oct 2017 17:26 #303661 by
Time doesn't kill us. Never once has time killed anyone. Your body gives out. The cancer breaks you. Your heart stops. Never time.

Though yes. If we think we have enough experience and we stop trying to learn, often we blind ourselves. I can agree with that.

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10 Oct 2017 17:36 - 10 Oct 2017 17:47 #303662 by OB1Shinobi

JLSpinner wrote: Time doesn't kill us. Never once has time killed anyone. Your body gives out. The cancer breaks you. Your heart stops. Never time.

Though yes. If we think we have enough experience and we stop trying to learn, often we blind ourselves. I can agree with that.


The two have a relationship, no? The term "life-span" meaning both biological life, and the duration of time over which it naturally extends.
I mean, you can say it isnt water that kills a drowning person, only the lack of oxygen in the lungs. Its not being stabbed that kills people, only the compromising of an internal organ.

And i was talking about experience being illusory. Think, schizophrenia or hallucination. Or simply being wrong about something you think you know or saw or experienced.

People are complicated.
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10 Oct 2017 17:46 #303664 by
Everything has a relationship if we make it that way. We still died before we created the concept of time.
The experience isn't illusory. Only our ability to forget and/or pervert it.

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