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19 Jan 2016 20:24 #222908 by
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I'm going to say all this publically, and only one time.

Ob1, it was not my intention to make you feel as if you are less important than a movie. That allegation is absurd. It's also absurd to think that I am at a computer or device 24/7, and can respond to every single thing that comes across the screen. I sent the PM, youposted a comment calling me a name within minutes of that, I deleted it, then watched the movie thinking you would calm down about calling a moderating knight in a Jedi Temple names, like a child , and would address the issue more appropriately. Instead you post this thread.

By 'under no obligation to respond' I should have modified that to read 'in your specified timeline'. Is there some countdown clock by your computer that read 'X number of minutes til public spectacle commences', where if you don't receive exactly the response you want you begin to caterwal in a public forum? This whole thread is ...ill advised, to say the least.

I'm not trying to censor you. I don't even know you. We have never had a conversation that I know of. I have nothing against you personally. But if someone reports a post, I usually err on the side of caution and remove it. Because either someone within the temple is offended enough by it to report it, and I leave it, thus offending them, or I remove it, and hopefully the poster gets the picture that this is a Jedi Temple, not 4chan, and to behave appropriately. Obviously the latter didn't happen here.

Could I have told you so more sweetly? Sure. I do not have the time or patience to do so. Perhaps that is a character flaw.

I'm tired of it. Very tired , all the time, and this isn't helping. Also have the flu or something today so maybe that's inflecting my mindset, maybe not. But I am not going to be doing this moderating thing for an extended period . If it becomes permanent, so be it. That's up to the council and I.

Have a good one.

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19 Jan 2016 20:47 #222916 by
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Perhaps this thread is good reason to reflect on a few things...

Nobility: To act with honour.
A Jedi does not engage in petty, mean or otherwise dubious activities. Acting with stature and distinction influences others, offering a compelling example of what can be achieved by those who follow Jediism.

Discipline: To let the self be sole master of the self.
A Jedi’s mind is structured, peaceful, unencumbered by emotions, physical state or external stimuli.

Intervention: To know when not to act.
A Jedi knows how inaction can have as great an impact as action and how some of the greatest lessons are self-taught. To be a victor is also taking that victory from those you protect. A Jedi intervenes only when a Jedi's intervention is required.

Harmony: To be connected to the Force.
A Jedi seeks to live in harmony with the Force, for that is the reason to be a Jedi. To better understand its ways, to better know one's place within it.

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19 Jan 2016 21:08 - 19 Jan 2016 21:09 #222919 by ren
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But if someone reports a post, I usually err on the side of caution and remove it.


When someone reports something to the cops, the cops have to investigate whether a crime was committed, they err on the side of caution by assuming everyone's innocent, then find out who actually is guilty of something. And even when a crime was committed, they don't always pursue it....

Let's look at this hypothetical situation.
A:-Black people are more likely to commit a violent crime
B:-You are racist, I am reporting you.
A:- Why so confrontational?
C:- Locking thread/ Deleting post.
[strike]D:- But I'm black and I don't commit crimes, and my black friends got beat up by a chinese guy just yesterday[/strike]
[strike]E:- I think police profiling methods cause a vicious circle.[/strike]


A makes a statement (which may be true or false)
B makes a personal attack and acted anti-socially by reporting A's comment
A asks a question
C censors A, and endorses B's personal attack
D didn't get to tell his story.
E doesn't look at police profiling methods or statistics and doesn't share his findings

Conclusion: Everyone loses.

Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
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19 Jan 2016 21:14 #222920 by
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How often does a - e happen?

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19 Jan 2016 21:16 #222921 by Manu
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I wonder if the person who originally reported Ob1's post in the other thread is secretly laughing and eating popcorn as this all unravels. :laugh:

Both parties could have handled the situation better (Br. John certainly contributed in the way that would have been expected from an administrator), but it's time to get over it. Nobody's perfect.

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The optimist expects it to change;
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19 Jan 2016 21:38 #222924 by Br. John
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So a Moderator has deleted your post and you're furious. I'd be. And I've been on the end of that stick. Gave many a good cussin' too. They never helped my cause but they made me feel better for the moment. One time when I was about to hit SEND I was interrupted and got back to the computer an hour later. My venomous email was there waiting for me. I re-read it and (having cooled down) it occurred to me how I'd react if I got an email like that.

I started over.

It was something along these lines (I don't remember the exact words) and I'm editing it to fit the current evens.

Hello Moderator,

I see you deleted my post #5225222 and I was hoping you could help me understand why. I know you're busy and I appreciate your time. I'm confused because the post right before mine used the same words and has multiple "Thank You's" and yet it's still there. When you have a chance I'd appreciate your assistance. Thanks a million, John


Do y'all think the outcome was different for me this time?

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19 Jan 2016 22:10 #222927 by
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Br. John wrote: So a Moderator has deleted your post and you're furious. I'd be. And I've been on the end of that stick. Gave many a good cussin' too. They never helped my cause but they made me feel better for the moment. One time when I was about to hit SEND I was interrupted and got back to the computer an hour later. My venomous email was there waiting for me. I re-read it and (having cooled down) it occurred to me how I'd react if I got an email like that.

I started over.

It was something along these lines (I don't remember the exact words) and I'm editing it to fit the current evens.

Hello Moderator,

I see you deleted my post #5225222 and I was hoping you could help me understand why. I know you're busy and I appreciate your time. I'm confused because the post right before mine used the same words and has multiple "Thank You's" and yet it's still there. When you have a chance I'd appreciate your assistance. Thanks a million, John


Do y'all think the outcome was different for me this time?


I do that , i write horrible e mails and then make them more accepteble after cooling down but also this is why i became a writer , i can write all kind of things and they'll say , where does she get it from :) There are all kinds of emotions inside us and rage even , its good if you can count to 10 , but we start at 1, 2 ...and every day we hope we can get to 3 and one day to 10 and one day we will :lol:

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19 Jan 2016 22:11 - 19 Jan 2016 22:12 #222928 by Jestor
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wonder if the person who originally reported Ob1's post in the other thread is secretly laughing and eating popcorn as this all unravels.


No, this is making that person sick, pissed, sad, and leaving TOTJO...

Probably not as humorous....


Edit: considering leaving TOTJO...

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19 Jan 2016 22:22 #222930 by Manu
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Jestor wrote:

wonder if the person who originally reported Ob1's post in the other thread is secretly laughing and eating popcorn as this all unravels.


No, this is making that person sick, pissed, sad, and leaving TOTJO...

Probably not as humorous....


Edit: considering leaving TOTJO...


Sorry about that. I was trying to lighten up the mood. Online drama will happen from time to time, it is inevitable. Not worth leaving TOTJO though, IMO.

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The optimist expects it to change;
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19 Jan 2016 22:22 #222931 by Avalon
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Jestor wrote:

wonder if the person who originally reported Ob1's post in the other thread is secretly laughing and eating popcorn as this all unravels.


No, this is making that person sick, pissed, sad, and leaving TOTJO...

Probably not as humorous....


Edit: considering leaving TOTJO...


This would be very unfortunate as I would imagine said individual is probably rather respected in the community as a whole. I should hope that the reactions and outbursts of one individual over a single incident would not taint someone's view of the community to that degree, though I would also understand entirely if they did...

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