Brenna's Open Journal - An exploration

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HUGS FOR ALL.*

This thread has sorta become several different topics about the morality of deception and the like and it's become very confusing with quite a few people seeming a bit emotional with their posts.
Chill,
And Breathe!
Brenna's 'okay' now. That's important isn't it? We contacted her through this post or through PM because we were worried for her and thought there was something wrong. And so we offered our support. Whether her first post was truth or ploy (for some deeper purpose)- does it matter now? You can't fully control other people, but you can do a better job controlling yourself than them, What she did isn't so important as what you do! Would you still do the same (offering advice, PM-ing) if she or someone else did a similar post? And would you want people to support you and offer advice if you did what she did?
You don't have to answer these questions, but please-
Relax, Try and be like this cat, http://www.memecenter.com/fun/2224485/relaxed-cat hehe

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elizabeth wrote: Really conner, yet you make it look so easy

Hahaha. If only.

But, in reality, it IS very easy. Society gets in the way! We have expectations.

My main problem is that I make assumptions. I tend to judge quickly instead of being patient.

I noticed :whistle:

Hahahah. That's funny.

Unfortunately for others, it's not something I'm focusing on right now.

What she did isn't so important as what you do

I am at a loss at this attempt to mitigate the responsibility of one who starts a post...or any action for that matter.

As for what others do...why is chill, breathe, and relax considered the best course of action?

There is nothing wrong with being emotional with your posts, nothing at all.

Unless were trying to encourage hiding...

not encouraging that and I'm not relaxed or chilled in any way khaos....don't worry I'm still pissed of and fired up :laugh:

Khaos- If I came across as 'black or white' or unclear, my bad and I apologize.

As for what others do...why is chill, breathe, and relax considered the best course of action?

I don't think that chilling, breathing and relaxing is always the best course of action. But as to why it might be a 'good' course of action sometimes- one is more likely to listen without as much judgement and be able to take in more of the opposing argument. It's friendlier, and better for conversation if two people can relax a little with one another and can hear one another speaking. When one is emotional, the meaning of both their words sometimes gets lost as well as not fully understanding the words of the other person... Of course, there's the other side to it which you started to point out- it can seen as hiding, not facing the problem, and letting things slide because one is 'too' relaxed and doesn't care.

There is nothing wrong with being emotional with your posts, nothing at all.

I believe I understand. Agreed- being emotional with your posts is not wrong. Being emotional is sorta a part of who we are isn't it? But I believe there's an element of choice (to act how we act) when we are aware of ourselves and our emotions. Perhaps it is solely my personal preference that I need to at least try to understand the other person and if I'm getting emotional about it I'm not going to try so hard to understand and will be easily frustrated and give up trying to communicate...

What she did isn't so important as what you do

I am at a loss at this attempt to mitigate the responsibility of one who starts a post...or any action for that matter.

Hmm... I guess that was me saying Brenna's action wasn't so important as how we act afterwards- so yep I was attempting to mitigate her 'responsibility' of starting the post. Not completely take away that responsibility but I was trying to bring to awareness people's own actions. I was trying to say that even when someone starts something, when one chooses to join in (or chooses to stay out), that person takes on *new* responsibility of their own for their actions and words. What someone DID is not as important (in my mind) as what you choose to do NOW. When people get emotional, I think they stop living in the moment and rather are just reacting to the past but this is weird philosophy and probably deserves another thread... But yeah- I think breathing helps get back to the moment.
Restatement- so I think taking a chill pill and being able to relax with one another helps conversation and understanding. What do you think Khaos?
Also- Is this distanced enough from the original topic that we should take this to another thread?

Maybe this thread is all about moral licensing;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbjjIId54g8

or maybe not.

Please Forgive this question. you said:

elizabeth wrote: So sick of people that hide themselves... be honest about who you are
This is why I don't like people
They wear masks and hide parts of themselves

but you also said:

elizabeth wrote: I know who I am and am always honest with myself even if I aren't with others...

Is that not a contradiction of itself?


I have tried to stay out of this as long as I can. People get heated, people judge, people misread, a lot goes on and in a text based online environment it is as you said hard to truly know anyone. There is also another angle to look at here that seams to be missed. A couple people have stated that Brenna has lied and been deceptive. As pointed out several times she stated her purpose in the first post and the title itself. It was also mentioned that if these were her true feelings and these thoughts were really how she felt then the "Sweet Brenna" was a lie and she was being deceptive before. so either way people are saying that one way or the other she is a deceptive person.

So I ask this in hopes to apply some perspective. We can all be both sides of this debate. Staying with this topic maybe Sweet Breena does have "dark, bad, negative, or what ever feelings" that came up in this thread. And maybe yes, she has been hiding it from others. Why is that deception. Has nobody stopped to think that maybe SHE did not like those feelings and was "hiding" them from others because she was CHOOSING to not let that part control her? We all have to make a choice what path we walk. Sometimes there are obstacles in the road that make it hard to walk it and sometimes that obstacle is our own minds. things that we encounter in our journey can cloud what we want to do that does not mean we are trying to be deceptive only that we only want the side we choose to show in an effort to rid ourselves of the parts we don't like.

I have a temper problem. small things make me very angry but a choose to fight it and not let that part of me show because when I do I don't like what happens. Now going on the Light vs Dark argument. "Light" minded people will say my deception is when I let the anger take over. "Dark" minded people will say my deception is hiding the anger. in truth the only deception is inside my self fighting with what I want to be. There is no intended deception attack being issued to anyone outside of myself.

So before name calling, insults, and accusations continue to fly around please take a minute to look at why maybe you feel the way you do about this topic. Take a look at how you feel about your selves and the things you do. How do you treat others that think like you or don't think like you. Why are so many so quick to judge and write others off when what we really need to do is show support for the PERSON regardless of the ACTION. I care about everyone that signs in here no matter what their views are, no matter what they do but, I don't have to like what they do. Since you will probably see this I even care about you Mortose. I may not agree with some things you say or do but I do care about you as a person and hope you the best in what you choose to do. Elizabeth you a free to be pissed off and angry if that is how you choose to feel but I challenge you to take a look at what I have said here. if anyone has any issues with what I have said feel free to send me a PM or an email.

Thought i should wake up at 2 in the afternoon. Good idea that was . In all honesty this reminds me of a guy i was working with last year, most cynical man ever to come across. When donating blood with him i get the starting revelation his blood type was B positive. Now fancy that.


Oh btw, am I the pig or the sycophantic woman?