Brenna's Open Journal - An exploration

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18 Feb 2014 16:53 #138782 by

Jon wrote: This conversation certainly reads like a handsome pile of colorful tripe dressed up as an Austrian Waltzer. One click of a mouse, the caring "I love you!" good daddy`s who after years of membership have not found it above their dignity to even share a word with some members here here. One step forward one step back… The big bad boy ass spewing proverbial carnage, like some cliche you could get out of any comic book you care to look at. One step forward one step back… . If anyone cares, instead of pressing keys on a board, why do you not just go to Canada and save this man who is enjoying the apparent attention he is being afforded. Although I must admit this verbal crap is being soaked up at TOTJO like a sponge which hash`t seen water for years, and the place is changing.


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18 Feb 2014 16:59 #138784 by Lykeios Little Raven
Well...*ahem* That first post was... refreshing. Nice to see your fangs there Brenna. ;)

“Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man.” -Zhuangzi

“Though, as the crusade presses on, I find myself altogether incapable of staying here in saftey while others shed their blood for such a noble and just cause. For surely must the Almighty be with us even in the sundering of our nation. Our fight is for freedom, for liberty, and for all the principles upon which that aforementioned nation was built.” - Patrick “Madman of Galway” O'Dell

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18 Feb 2014 17:12 #138786 by Jestor

Mortose wrote:

Damion_Storm wrote: I even care about you Mortose. I may not agree with some things you say or do but I do care about you as a person and hope you the best in what you choose to do.


So, if I desire to destroy all life, do you still wish me the best? What if I desire to bring torment to the world? Come now! You wish me the best in this? How about smaller things? Destroying people? Bringing torment to people? Feeding on what I please?


I will answer for myself, and not Damion...

Hopefully, you will choose to do 'right'....;)

Although I must admit this verbal crap is being soaked up at TOTJO like a sponge which hash`t seen water for years, and the place is changing.


Sure it is Jon...

Many threads get like this...

And, almost always the most controversial...

Star Forge did the same thing, as have many others...

And, when Mortose wears himself out, it will stop... The fires he are starting will be short lived...

Or, he will cross the line, and we will give her the boot...

As we generally dont like doing that, he will not be the first, and wont be the last...

You know how Council is, we are watching, and giving everyone all the freedom they need to either; hang themselves and be removed, or learn more about themself...

Hopefully, the second one happens before the first one...;)

On walk-about...

Sith ain't Evil...
Jedi ain't Saints....


"Bake or bake not. There is no fry" - Sean Ching


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18 Feb 2014 17:16 - 18 Feb 2014 17:23 #138788 by Alexandre Orion
Love doesn't answer to why, how nor what ...

These would indicate mental constructs, yet -- Love is not 'mental'. That which is mental is not 'Love'.

"Love is something that is new, fresh, alive. It has no yesterday and no tomorrow. It is beyond the turmoil of thought. It is only the innocent mind which knows what love is, and the innocent mind can live in the world which is not innocent. To find this extraordinary thing which man has sought endlessly through sacrifice, through worship, through relationship, through sex, through every form of pleasure and pain, is only possible when thought comes to understand itself and comes naturally to an end. Then love has no opposite, then love has no conflict."

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"But you don't know how to come to this extraordinary fount - so what do you do? If you don't know what to do, you do nothing, don't you? Absolutely nothing. Then inwardly you are completely silent. Do you understand what that means? It means that you are not seeking, not wanting, not pursuing; there is no centre at all. Then there is love."


Basically, if you can quantify it or attribute qualities to it, then it's not Love. It can be expressed poetically, in metaphor, but if one attempts to describe Love according to its ascribed 'conditions', then one is effectively talking about another phenomenon ...

Be a philosopher ; but, amidst all your philosophy, be still a man.
~ David Hume

Chaque homme a des devoirs envers l'homme en tant qu'homme.
~ Henri Bergson
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18 Feb 2014 17:24 #138789 by
Jestor, what is the line? Maybe knowing would be useful.

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18 Feb 2014 17:37 #138793 by Amaya
I know where my personal line is and I have crossed it here.
My anger and rage is not about this post and I apologise for the language and manner in which I have spoken
Brenna, I do wish you the best whatever you do and I am sorry for any hurt I have caused with my actions.
Know that I will learn from this
And Naya I owe you the same apology.
For anyone else who has been offended I extend the same apology, I have no excuses and I will consider my words more carefully the next time I post

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18 Feb 2014 20:46 #138819 by rugadd
And people wonder why I don't get more upset at peoples drama...


"Are you even human?" My wife asked me after I saw my daughter fall down the stairs. Her apparent balking was inspired by my lack of immediate action...immediate action being defined as flinging myself down the stairs after her. When I explained that had I done so I may have crushed her and that waiting and trusting her to deal with the immediate as it presented itself to her(as a a child, she had the advantage here) I was in fact seeking the better path. Nothing beyond minor bruising, but since then, the sincerity of any emotional response has been in question...


Apparently your not human if you don't give in to impulse....

rugadd

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19 Feb 2014 01:11 #138871 by Damion_Storm
You miss what I am trying to say Mort. I did say I care about YOU as a person as I do everyone. I do not like some things that you do or say those ACTIONS are the issue. Now when I say I wish you the best in what you choose to do, that is not saying I condone your actions and let us give three cheers for your need for destructive actions. What I am saying is I wish you the best. If you continue with your need to be destructive that could end in many negative actions. Is that the best for you? Is Jail the Best for you? Is someone physically harming you it retaliation for what you did to them the Best for you? Is death the Best for you? I don't think they are and therefore when I say I wish you the best in what you choose to do it means I hope you find a path that leads to long life and happiness. I know you say you are happy bringing misery to other but one day maybe you will decide that that is not what makes you happy.

Oh and Jon I don't think one needs to be saved and if so how would one save another from their own wills?

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19 Feb 2014 01:27 #138872 by

Damion_Storm wrote: Is that the best for you? Is Jail the Best for you? Is someone physically harming you it retaliation for what you did to them the Best for you? Is death the Best for you? I don't think they are and therefore when I say I wish you the best in what you choose to do it means I hope you find a path that leads to long life and happiness. I know you say you are happy bringing misery to other but one day maybe you will decide that that is not what makes you happy.


Jail? I break no laws, nor plan to. Being harmed? It could happen. Being killed? That might be fun! Regardless, I get your meaning now.

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19 Feb 2014 02:01 #138878 by
Illusion vs. reality, facetious remarks vs. sincere emotion; it is difficult to decipher some parts of this conversation.

I just want to put out there that if anyone wants to talk they can message me. I don't always have the most time, living in AIT and all, but I will answer all messages I recieve. I feel out of touch with the members here, whom I consider my family. I care for those of you here and enjoy the community here. It is a home for me when I cannot be at my physical home. So hit me up with some messages and ...

May the Force be with you,
Rai

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