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10 Jun 2013 06:26 #108801 by Whyte Horse
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ren wrote: I put this on facebook:

Prostitution: the situation in which the demand for sex is greater than the supply, causing the price of sex to rise above 0. With one class having a natural need and an other class in control of most of the supply,
I put it to you that prostitution is therefore the oppression of men and a crime against natural law.

https://www.facebook.com/ren.sydrick/posts/10201406519584657?notif_t=like

And got this reply "Jim Scott: I'll pay you a penny to get 5 other men (any men) to post that they agree with you."

Now you know what to do guys. Help ren earn a penny :D


And of course feel free to discuss ;)

Sorry I'm going to have to disagree.

The reason you pay a prostitute is to get her to LEAVE. The reason for lack of sex in the west is because the women are obese and the 2% that are skinny suffer from princess syndrome.

Women are wonderful people and worthy of the highest respect one person can give another. There is no supply/demand curve or other neo-capitalistic interpretation that can be applied to them. I personally hang around the hippie chicks and granola girls and since they eat right they're not fat so yeah they're all totally hot and since I respect them it's totally an honour to make love to them. But yeah if you go to walmart to meet chicks you'll end up fighting with 500 other guys for the one skinny crack-whore who comes to the store.

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10 Jun 2013 06:34 #108802 by Adder
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Payment is usually by the hour isn't it? So if by the hour, not by the 'sex', then you are buying her time. The services offered are non-specific, but specifically involving the obvious. Different things might be valued differently depending on the individuals involved.

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10 Jun 2013 07:01 #108805 by Whyte Horse
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Adder wrote: Payment is usually by the hour isn't it? So if by the hour, not by the 'sex', then you are buying her time. The services offered are non-specific, but specifically involving the obvious. Different things might be valued differently depending on the individuals involved.

In the west it's by the hour. Everywhere else it's short or long time. but yeah you're still buying her time away from other things she can be doing to make money like... well we won't go there. Let's just say western civilization and capitalism are a total failure.

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10 Jun 2013 07:13 - 10 Jun 2013 07:17 #108807 by Brenna
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Whyte Horse wrote:

ren wrote: I put this on facebook:

Prostitution: the situation in which the demand for sex is greater than the supply, causing the price of sex to rise above 0. With one class having a natural need and an other class in control of most of the supply,
I put it to you that prostitution is therefore the oppression of men and a crime against natural law.

https://www.facebook.com/ren.sydrick/posts/10201406519584657?notif_t=like

And got this reply "Jim Scott: I'll pay you a penny to get 5 other men (any men) to post that they agree with you."

Now you know what to do guys. Help ren earn a penny :D


And of course feel free to discuss ;)

Sorry I'm going to have to disagree.

The reason you pay a prostitute is to get her to LEAVE. The reason for lack of sex in the west is because the women are obese and the 2% that are skinny suffer from princess syndrome.

Women are wonderful people and worthy of the highest respect one person can give another. There is no supply/demand curve or other neo-capitalistic interpretation that can be applied to them. I personally hang around the hippie chicks and granola girls and since they eat right they're not fat so yeah they're all totally hot and since I respect them it's totally an honour to make love to them. But yeah if you go to walmart to meet chicks you'll end up fighting with 500 other guys for the one skinny crack-whore who comes to the store.



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10 Jun 2013 09:36 #108810 by Gisteron
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I do not agree.
Prostitution to me is the will to sacrifice one's person, individuality, honor, values, dignity or integrity to gain something from it that is any less by any standard that would qualify.

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10 Jun 2013 09:45 #108811 by Brenna
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Gisteron wrote: I do not agree.
Prostitution to me is the will to sacrifice one's person, individuality, honor, values, dignity or integrity to gain something from it that is any less by any standard that would qualify.


Could you elaborate on why?



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10 Jun 2013 10:57 #108812 by ren
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There's always the risk of pregnancy. Men can have sex and walk away scot-free if they want. If a woman has careless sex and ends up getting pregnant she's pretty much stuck with the consequences.


I think men are more at a loss there. women have multiple short-term before-sex options to prevent that, right after sex options, and abortion. Then, they can also abandon their children.

If you're a guy, the only choice you have is one short-term before-sex option, and simply not finish up. That's it. they track you down, take your dna and make you pay whether you want a kid or not.

Let's just say western civilization and capitalism are a total failure.

Because in the west we have no freedom, we have no education, we never invent anything, we're all dying from awful diseases.... Dude our main worry right now is obesity. not exactly what i'd call a total failure.

There will always be a demand for paid sex because that is something that just fires some people up. Yet I will have to say again, there is no way is oppresses men. Oppression implies force and lack of free will. Men and women make a choice to purchase sex, they are not forced. Therefor not oppression.


But that's the point. Do men choose to pay for sex, or do they pay for it because it's the only way they can get it?

John mentioned male prostitutes, the same applies there. It would seem many men are sick and tired of their wives, but can't afford to get a divorce, or are afraid going full gay will get them fired or lose customers... So they go to male prostitutes... For plain old no strings attached sex of a different nature.
Here again, I'm not sure they want to pay for it, simply they don't want to be seen in say, a gay bar, or anywhere near anyone who could recognize them, and also not with someone who could be interested in something a bit more long term.

And to go back to feminists: funny how they seem to completely ignore male prostitutes? they complain about strippers, but not chippendales? And then there's porn. gay porn is just like hetero porn. but feminists say is only a problem for women. (who earn significantly more than men in the porn industry, for the same market reasons as prostitution imo)

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10 Jun 2013 10:59 #108813 by ren
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Gisteron wrote: I do not agree.
Prostitution to me is the will to sacrifice one's person, individuality, honor, values, dignity or integrity to gain something from it that is any less by any standard that would qualify.


Had your first job yet?

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prostitution : putting a price on sex

social work : putting a price on helping people


am I evil too?

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10 Jun 2013 11:51 #108815 by Adder
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It is not required for life. It is sensual pleasure, and a private type of intimacy. People can climax on their own so what are we talking about in actuality? I'd guess it is the provision of a fantasy, in effect 'entertainment'.

If that has become a requirement for a person to survive then it sounds more like an addiction. If individual circumstances limit a person from society to such an extent that they are incapable of forming intimate relationship's then for me it fall's into the broader category of a health problem. All therapy's tend to cost money to be provided, and professional's tend to provide better service and that specialization tends to cost more I imagine.

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