Prostitution

First of all, sex is perfectly normal and natural. There is nothing disgusting about it. Many people enjoy it and do it frequently.

You do realize I never made that claim, right?

Define exploitation ren? I tend to think its more accurate to define it as opportunity (for men). Sex is not restricted to prostitution, therefore it is not exploitation.... is it!? It is one avenue of many means for the male to satisfy that concept of libido. Due to the increased risk's and perhaps special skills, as a vocation it seems pretty normal it requires monetary compensation (payment). What if there were no prostitutes, how would your viewpoint change then!?

Exploitation can be seen in the economic sense here: two people do the same amount of work, but are rewarded differently, just like the factory worker in the US compared to the factory worker in china. If you look at prostitution, both parties get to do the same thing, yet one gets rewarded and the other doesn't (in fact has to pay for the privilege).
Apply these same dynamics to say, the old segregated education systems, where you'd get white folks getting paid to be educated alongside blacks who would have to pay for it? Same thing for girls and boys ?
Wikipedia calls exploitation "using something in an unjust or cruel manner", would you say it is not unjust and not cruel to make a black kid pay your kid just to sit next to him/her in class ?

Ren, the real scam isn't sex, it's relationships. Women don't control you with your dick so much as they do with your heart. You try to love and care for a person who's only agenda is to steal. bankrupt, and ruin your life in general. They do this because, they know you love them and they can manipulate you. Almost every woman I dated would be qualified as a manipulative, conniving, psychopathic, drama queen, princess. Love is a violent affair. Love in my opinion is not real, it's a scam. Most of the women I've dated were absolutely horrible people, every bit as awful as the men who beat their wives into a bloody pulp.

As far as fat chicks go, 90kg is the limit, but then only if the sex is amazing.

Whyte Horse wrote: Your sarcasm isn't well received at all. It's childish. I'd respond to your other points but after you insulted me you can go suck an egg.

Careful....

Everyone....

Avner wrote: What's wrong with obese women? I've seen quite a few beautiful overweight women. I've also seen some butt ugly skinny women. But then again i focus more on face, eyes, and hair color.

Nothing...

And I really agree with you whole heartedly.... Im not into skinny women... "I like a little meat on dey bones...

But, just like the fancy wrappers on products we buy...

If, upon intial contact, the wrapping isnt appealing, then odds are, we dont look beyond it...

I never hit on the group 'leader' (dare I say alpha, lol)... They are usually do not get along to well with me...

I hit on the Beta... because generally, all women (and men) are beautiful, and have great features...

Some just show all their good qualities on the outside...

Like chocolates in a box, sometimes you get a cocnut (yuck!), when I am looking for the berry (yum!) flavor...

megamind wrote: Ren, the real scam isn't sex, it's relationships. Women don't control you with your dick so much as they do with your heart. You try to love and care for a person who's only agenda is to steal. bankrupt, and ruin your life in general. They do this because, they know you love them and they can manipulate you. Almost every woman I dated would be qualified as a manipulative, conniving, psychopathic, drama queen, princess. Love is a violent affair. Love in my opinion is not real, it's a scam. Most of the women I've dated were absolutely horrible people, every bit as awful as the men who beat their wives into a bloody pulp.

As far as fat chicks go, 90kg is the limit, but then only if the sex is amazing.

Ironically, the preferance for prostitutes and toys didn't so much as raise an eyebrow. The way you feel about women and relationships is far more unsettling. And the more I read, the more I think that the whole "women having too many demands" thing is hypocritical. Men appear to have as many demands and criteria for women as women do for men. Cool, so you don't find "fat chicks" attractive. Personal preferance is all good. Most women don't find men who are too lazy to put any effort into a relationship attractive either. (Not that I'm saying that's you, just an example). Why should women be demonized for having a certain standard for the partner that they are with, yet is acceptable for you to have certain standards? That doesn't mean that women who never settle down because they can't find a man who is acceptable are "abused", just like a man who can't find a woman to have sex with is not "abused"


I'm aware I'm probably overstepping the line here so I apologize Jestor in advance for it. But isn't it against the rules to have more than one account? If this is what you truly believe Megamind and will stand by that opinion with conviction, shouldn't you be saying it using your "official" account.

I am a decent looking 25 year old male. I have absolutely no problems getting a girlfriend, but I find it's easier and cheaper to just pay for sex than to risk have my life ruined. If you had dated say 30 men, and they all beaten you senseless, I would guess your opinion on men would probably change. I've never been beaten by a woman physically, but I've lost high paying jobs because they brought drama to my place of work. I've been involved in legal drama because of them. I've had my pets stolen then given away to a third party, televisions stolen, all funds in my bank account stolen, car totaled. Every kind of crazy drama you can imagine, I've had it. I've decided to call it quits as a result of all this. I've concluded it just isn't worth it for me personally. I know there are some women out there that are good people. I am sure that men aren't innocent either. There are plenty of physically abusive men as well. I can't complain about men because I've only had my experience of dating women as a man. All I wanted was someone who didn't ruin my life, low drama, pulled their own weight, liked sex, and didn't want kids. I tried my best to find that, but it never happened, that isn't to say it doesn't exist. It was never my argument that men were owed sex, and abused if they didn't get it for free.

Brenna wrote:

megamind wrote: Ren, the real scam isn't sex, it's relationships. Women don't control you with your dick so much as they do with your heart. You try to love and care for a person who's only agenda is to steal. bankrupt, and ruin your life in general. They do this because, they know you love them and they can manipulate you. Almost every woman I dated would be qualified as a manipulative, conniving, psychopathic, drama queen, princess. Love is a violent affair. Love in my opinion is not real, it's a scam. Most of the women I've dated were absolutely horrible people, every bit as awful as the men who beat their wives into a bloody pulp.

As far as fat chicks go, 90kg is the limit, but then only if the sex is amazing.

Ironically, the preferance for prostitutes and toys didn't so much as raise an eyebrow. The way you feel about women and relationships is far more unsettling. And the more I read, the more I think that the whole "women having too many demands" thing is hypocritical. Men appear to have as many demands and criteria for women as women do for men. Cool, so you don't find "fat chicks" attractive. Personal preferance is all good. Most women don't find men who are too lazy to put any effort into a relationship attractive either. (Not that I'm saying that's you, just an example). Why should women be demonized for having a certain standard for the partner that they are with, yet is acceptable for you to have certain standards? That doesn't mean that women who never settle down because they can't find a man who isn't acceptable "abused", just like a man who can't find a woman to have sex with is "abused"

megamind wrote: I am a decent looking 25 year old male. I have absolutely no problems getting a girlfriend, but I find it's easier and cheaper to just pay for sex than to risk have my life ruined. If you had dated say 30 men, and they all beaten you senseless, I would guess your opinion on men would probably change. I've never been beaten by a woman physically, but I've lost high paying jobs because they brought drama to my place of work. I've been involved in legal drama because of them. I've had my pets stolen then given away to a third party, televisions stolen, all funds in my bank account stolen, car totaled. Every kind of crazy drama you can imagine, I've had it. I've decided to call it quits as a result of all this. I've concluded it just isn't worth it for me personally. I know there are some women out there that are good people. I am sure that men aren't innocent either. There are plenty of physically abusive men as well. I can't complain about men because I've only had my experience of dating women as a man. All I wanted was someone who didn't ruin my life, low drama, pulled their own weight, liked sex, and didn't want kids. I tried my best to find that, but it never happened, that isn't to say it doesn't exist. It was never my argument that men were owed sex, and abused if they didn't get it for free.

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Dude! Stop dating crazies!!! Where are you finding these women? I'm sorry for the assumption, but with everything that you've said, I'm hearing the words "high maintenance trophy girlfriends" ringing through my head...

And you're 25? You've got around 50 more years to go and you've already given up?

Yes I know, I was referencing back to Rens original question.

I’ll be the first to admit that it seems the only women I attract are high-maintenance-crazy women! Hence, I am still happily single!

That does NOT mean that I think all women are that way, or that women should alter their selves to my “expectations”… it just means that it’s probably going to take a while before I find one I want to settle down with.

It’s not fair, it’s not unfair; it’s just the way it is!

I've dated women I've met on eharmony, and through mutual friends mostly. I've lost a few friends as well as a result of bad break ups. I've dated women I considered physically ugly in hopes that they would be low maintenance and low drama, with no such luck. All I can say is that the saying "crazy in the bed, crazy in the head" is accurate. I've dumped a lot of girls who were awful at sex, as that is a huge deal breaker for me. I assume those people I dumped were probably normal, low drama, low maintenance people. Evolution it seems is not without a sense of irony.

Brenna wrote:

megamind wrote: I am a decent looking 25 year old male. I have absolutely no problems getting a girlfriend, but I find it's easier and cheaper to just pay for sex than to risk have my life ruined. If you had dated say 30 men, and they all beaten you senseless, I would guess your opinion on men would probably change. I've never been beaten by a woman physically, but I've lost high paying jobs because they brought drama to my place of work. I've been involved in legal drama because of them. I've had my pets stolen then given away to a third party, televisions stolen, all funds in my bank account stolen, car totaled. Every kind of crazy drama you can imagine, I've had it. I've decided to call it quits as a result of all this. I've concluded it just isn't worth it for me personally. I know there are some women out there that are good people. I am sure that men aren't innocent either. There are plenty of physically abusive men as well. I can't complain about men because I've only had my experience of dating women as a man. All I wanted was someone who didn't ruin my life, low drama, pulled their own weight, liked sex, and didn't want kids. I tried my best to find that, but it never happened, that isn't to say it doesn't exist. It was never my argument that men were owed sex, and abused if they didn't get it for free.

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Dude! Stop dating crazies!!! Where are you finding these women? I'm sorry for the assumption, but with everything that you've said, I'm hearing the words "high maintenance trophy girlfriends" ringing through my head...

And you're 25? You've got around 50 more years to go and you've already given up?

Yes I know, I was referencing back to Rens original question.

So have you gone through each one and figured out the common denominator?

"Crazy in bed, crazy in the head"? I would have to respectfully disagree. Although I'm going to assume you've slept with more women than I have.

I will say that what I look for in a relationship is probably not what most people are willing to bring to the table. I like peace, quiet and personal space. And that doesn’t seem to be a common goal in the women I attract. Now, I say “I attract” because I know there are great women out there that probably want the same things I do… I just don’t attract them!

And with my past experience, even though I know that no two people are the same, after ,let’s just say thirty plus years, any time a woman comes up and says hello… I get real cautious! :ohmy:

Hahahhahahhahha :woohoo:

But that is me!