Prostitution

I put this on facebook:

Prostitution: the situation in which the demand for sex is greater than the supply, causing the price of sex to rise above 0. With one class having a natural need and an other class in control of most of the supply,
I put it to you that prostitution is therefore the oppression of men and a crime against natural law.

https://www.facebook.com/ren.sydrick/posts/10201406519584657?notif_t=like

And got this reply "Jim Scott: I'll pay you a penny to get 5 other men (any men) to post that they agree with you."

Now you know what to do guys. Help ren earn a penny


And of course feel free to discuss

I do agree, actually. Nothing to discuss, it's a nice definition. Though, it may not meet 100% of cases.

it should not only be considered a crime against nature, but a crime against huMANity :laugh:

To rip dune: she who controls the p***y, controls man.....gay men have it so much easier in that regard...they don't have to deal with all the obstacles women throw up...

L.O.S.S (Lack Of Sex Syndrome) is the leading cause of male related violence, and the leading motivator of mankinds greatest achievements....

When has the cost of sex ever been 0$ ?
You have to pay money to take them out
You have to pay time to get them willing
You have to pay mentally putting up with them...

Im not entirely sure I agree. I know men who are in relationships who are not lacking at home but still enjoy the variety and convenience of paying for something a little different.

Sex may not ever be free for men, but it comes at a cost for women too.

What cost?


Another point: You know how feminists always make it look like women have such a crappy time living under the evil patriarchy?
Well, why is it that men tend to commit suicide more than women? (maybe related to Ryu's LOSS? )

A want does not make a need.

Sex is complicated in a different way for women. When you sleep with a man you run the risk of a couple things. In my own experience men tend to feel that they have some sort of claim or ownership once youve had sex, and the assumption is that you should in future be available to them on call.

Theres the emotional vulnerability that having sex creates. Theres always the risk of having more expectation of the relationship or experience, and the emotional fall out of disapointment is far worse if youve already slept together.

Many women feel that their sexual appeal and availability (or not) is the currency of their value as people. Once that currency is spent its difficult to retrieve the value of it. And there is of course the perception of women depending on what their sexual history is. Annoying and juvenile, but a reality all the same.

Im not sure what the stats are where you are Ren, but there is a definite skew worldwide. Unfortuantely stats like that dont give you the bigger picture though. Men are far more likely that women to commit suicide, but they are also more likely to not get help for mental health issues in the first place. They are less likely to attend therapy or councelling, less likely to stick to prescribed medication, and less likely to admit to the issue in the first place. More women than men are diagnosed with depression and suicidal tendancies, they also have a much higher rate of self harming and suicidal attempts. So over all it seems women are more miserable, but men less likely to try fix the problem before resorting to drastic action.

Evil patriatchy? You cannot be a victim unless you allow yourself to be a victim. Quite frankly its not as simply as what Im about to say, but the truth as I believe it, is that women allowed it to happen. And still do.

Sex is complicated in a different way for women. When you sleep with a man you run the risk of a couple things. In my own experience men tend to feel that they have some sort of claim or ownership once youve had sex, and the assumption is that you should in future be available to them on call.

Theres the emotional vulnerability that having sex creates. Theres always the risk of having more expectation of the relationship or experience, and the emotional fall out of disapointment is far worse if youve already slept together.

All of this is true for men too, I don't consider it a price though, just a side-effect.

Men are far more likely that women to commit suicide, but they are also more likely to not get help for mental health issues in the first place. They are less likely to attend therapy or councelling, less likely to stick to prescribed medication, and less likely to admit to the issue in the first place. More women than men are diagnosed with depression and suicidal tendancies, they also have a much higher rate of self harming and suicidal attempts. So over all it seems women are more miserable, but men less likely to try fix the problem before resorting to drastic action.

In the UK, men's health issues gets very little attention. We constantly hear about breast cancer (and it's funded by the gov), but prostate cancer kills as many men as breast cancer kills women. there's no money going to research, nothing. Whenever you enter a public building, all the pamphlets you see are aimed at women.

Ren said

I put it to you that prostitution is therefore the oppression of men and a crime against natural law.

So many things are wrong with this statement. It is a surface observation of a horrible world wide issue. There are thousands of children and young girls and boys all over the world that are taken from their homes and forced it prostitution. You can say that

You cannot be a victim unless you allow yourself to be a victim.

Brenna, but until you are put in a position where your life or the lives of your family are threatened unless you sell you body than I don't believe that is an accurate statement.

Furthermore, the desire to have sex with a prostitute rarely has anything to do with a lack of willing sex partners. Being in the Army around the world I can tell you for certain that this is true. It is thrill seeking, or a need to "own" a partner for a brief time.

The only part of this I agree with is that is s a crime against natural law. Never should anybody be forced to sell their bodies to others. A lot of them never see a dime of that money. We get so focused on the lives of prostitutes in the western world that we forget that in many other countries it is no more than slavery. It is wrong in every way.

meganrtaylor wrote: Ren said

I put it to you that prostitution is therefore the oppression of men and a crime against natural law.

So many things are wrong with this statement. It is a surface observation of a horrible world wide issue. There are thousands of children and young girls and boys all over the world that are taken from their homes and forced it prostitution. You can say that

You cannot be a victim unless you allow yourself to be a victim.

Brenna, but until you are put in a position where your life or the lives of your family are threatened unless you sell you body than I don't believe that is an accurate statement.

I totally agree, which is why I said that its not as simple as Im making out. There are many countries in the world where it is still a case of force and criminal intent are a huge factor in the oppession and abuse of women. But in an environment that Rens comment suggests "You know how feminists always make it look like women have such a crappy time living under the evil patriarchy?" I would have taken it to mean women who are not in situations like forced prostitution or slave labour, but comfortable first world feninists who are still whinging about the "system" but doing nothing to create change.


Ps, I have to agree Ren. Breast cancer does get a big piece of the pie. Their marketing has been so good for so long that no one else stands a chance!