Jedi and Sexual Orientation

Desolous wrote: why are so sure there is only one specific path there? have you tried the other thousand forms you mentioned and found out?

I've put more effort into researching them than any person I've ever heard of, I am not saying they are useless, only that they don't lead to the specific results I am talking about.

Certainly I haven't investigated every form of meditation that exists on earth, or has in the past, but I'm more knowledgeable than your average bear and I try to keep my eyes and ears open for new sects and styles of meditation that get the results I am pursuing.

Only the attainment of a very specific state of consciousness, under very specific conditions can lead to what I am talking about.

There might be other paths I am unaware of but I have more effort into researching this than any normal person would.

Rickie The Grey wrote:
Your beliefs limit you in the unlimited. They seem narrowly focused and ceratin of that which can't be definable, Confidence is a good thing. Ignorance is when we think we know it all or even enough.

I know because I'm always right and you'r not able to under that or me. If you had my experiences you'd know that.

read this again, please, maynoth.

Rickie The Grey wrote:
Your beliefs limit you in the unlimited. They seem narrowly focused and ceratin of that which can't be definable, Confidence is a good thing. Ignorance is when we think we know it all or even enough.

I know because I'm always right and you'r not able to under that or me. If you had my experiences you'd know that.

Belief is a funny thing. Believing you can fly, no matter how convinced you are, doesn't mean you can even if you jump off a 20 story building to prove the sincerity of your beliefs.


Do I believe I know what my backyard looks like, or what my car looks like? Do I believe I understand how to work a basic algebra problem?

These things fall more into the realm of knowledge and experience.

A belief is more of a conjecture, a guess, a hope, etc.


I am only talking about what I've seen and experienced first hand.

You can consider me insane, a liar, or you can believe me. I don't much care what anyone thinks of me.


It frustrates me to try to talk about what I've seen and experienced matter of factly because always someone disagrees.

If you were talking about what you did for your vacation last year, and I said no, that's just your belief and opinion man, I'd guess you'd get really annoyed with such a constant bombardment of nonsense.

I won't be offended if you call me insane, or a liar, etc, but what I was speaking about is something I've experienced and observed just as real as any phenomenon in any other aspect of my life. It also doesn't seem to be something unique to me, others can and have experienced the same thing during the same specific state of meditation.

Yes, I can commiserate. I too know the feeling of annoyance at a constant bombardment of nonsense.

I honestly don’t think anyone is saying that they don’t believe what you experienced or that you believe your interpretation of your experience. That must be where the miscommunication is!?!?

All I was saying is that your experiences hold true for you and may not be universally translated. Just as I would not try to convince anyone of what I hold to be true. There is no point in defending the validity of what you believe. You believe it and that should be enough for you. What we have to keep in mind is how we interact with others. I won’t tell anyone that the only way they can do or achieve something is through this one way or that this one thing is it, the absolute. Even if it is true for me.

I don’t think I have disagreed one time with what you perceive, or have discovered through your meditation. What I pointed out is that it is your perception and may not be shared by others.

I am just trying to make the distinction between a personal belief, and an observation that many people could make and arrive a consensus agreement on.

What I am talking about is a real phenomenon any number of people who have the experience and training can share and observe and agree with via a consensus reality.

When I say real phenomenon I mean just as real as any other in nature, remember there was a time where radiowaves and extreme ultraviolet light would been considered supernatural by even the most educated men.

Wescli Wardest wrote: I honestly don’t think anyone is saying that they don’t believe what you experienced or that you believe your interpretation of your experience. That must be where the miscommunication is!?!?

All I was saying is that your experiences hold true for you and may not be universally translated. Just as I would not try to convince anyone of what I hold to be true. There is no point in defending the validity of what you believe. You believe it and that should be enough for you. What we have to keep in mind is how we interact with others. I won’t tell anyone that the only way they can do or achieve something is through this one way or that this one thing is it, the absolute. Even if it is true for me.

I don’t think I have disagreed one time with what you perceive, or have discovered through your meditation. What I pointed out is that it is your perception and may not be shared by others.

maynoth wrote:

Desolous wrote: why are so sure there is only one specific path there? have you tried the other thousand forms you mentioned and found out?

I've put more effort into researching them than any person I've ever heard of, I am not saying they are useless, only that they don't lead to the specific results I am talking about.

Certainly I haven't investigated every form of meditation that exists on earth, or has in the past, but I'm more knowledgeable than your average bear and I try to keep my eyes and ears open for new sects and styles of meditation that get the results I am pursuing.

Only the attainment of a very specific state of consciousness, under very specific conditions can lead to what I am talking about.

There might be other paths I am unaware of but I have more effort into researching this than any normal person would.

Wescli Wardest wrote: I honestly don’t think anyone is saying that they don’t believe what you experienced or that you believe your interpretation of your experience. That must be where the miscommunication is!?!?

All I was saying is that your experiences hold true for you and may not be universally translated. Just as I would not try to convince anyone of what I hold to be true. There is no point in defending the validity of what you believe. You believe it and that should be enough for you. What we have to keep in mind is how we interact with others. I won’t tell anyone that the only way they can do or achieve something is through this one way or that this one thing is it, the absolute. Even if it is true for me.

I don’t think I have disagreed one time with what you perceive, or have discovered through your meditation. What I pointed out is that it is your perception and may not be shared by others.

For each of us, there is only one path...

When we come to a fork in the road, we must choose...

We cannot keep going back and forth on the paths, or we never make it any further...

Maynoth for example, had a specific goal in mind, and in his effort to achieve it, he could exclude some of them with out even trying (I would assume, forgive me if im wrong)...

At certain points, he had to choose a direction, and he did...

The only way to get good, to become a Master, is by narrowing your focus like a beam of light...

Trying to include everything is like a floodlight, everything is seen, but nothing is singled out, nothing is focused on...

Just thinking these thoughts as I read...

Good thoughts.

Are you referring to consensual reality maynoth?

Maynoth, pm me your meditation techniques. I'm always interested in new meditations. And I'll try to experience what you are talking about.