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Jedi and Sexual Orientation
In regards to transgenders....yes with SOME it is fairly obvious, however that is not the case with ALL...there are many that are indistinguishable...I've seen plenty of them, as I said earlier I studied human sexuality in college and we had a seminar/conference with some and their dr.s....
A horse is a horse, of course of course, that is of course unless that horse is the mcdonalds qpc :whistle:
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it's often young adults (early to late 20's) that absolutely refuse to admit to the possibility that a transgender may get past their notice...it's only after experience and time that they lose this foolish notion and accept that things are not always as they seem, and that anything is possible...
when i was in my 20's i thought the same way "tranny's? eeewww, i'll never get fooled by one, i can spot them from a mile away" as i near the 40's now, i can admit that there are many transgendered that i would never even notice as being transgender...this is what time, education, and understanding can do for you...
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Quotes:
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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Looking at before and after photos of surgery, compared to the real deal it should be plenty obvious for just about anyone.
Sure on the outside it may be nearly impossible to tell if they have had they Adams apple surgically removed or the base of the skull ground down, but it should be pretty obvious in the bedroom.
RyuJin wrote: something i was thinking about after i made the previous post, but didn't have time to add...
Warning: Spoiler!in regards to self lubricating, there are many "natural born" women, ie. women born as women, that cannot self lubricate, that is why there are lubricants that can be purchased, likewise there are many "natural born" men (men born as men) that cannot become aroused by natural/normal means and require either meds, pumps or a combination...so lumping transgenders as unnatural because they can't self lubricate or become aroused is fallacious thinking...
it's often young adults (early to late 20's) that absolutely refuse to admit to the possibility that a transgender may get past their notice...it's only after experience and time that they lose this foolish notion and accept that things are not always as they seem, and that anything is possible...
when i was in my 20's i thought the same way "tranny's? eeewww, i'll never get fooled by one, i can spot them from a mile away" as i near the 40's now, i can admit that there are many transgendered that i would never even notice as being transgender...this is what time, education, and understanding can do for you...
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maynoth wrote: Looking at before and after photos of surgery, compared to the real deal it should be plenty obvious for just about anyone.
Sure on the outside it may be nearly impossible to tell if they have had they Adams apple surgically removed or the base of the skull ground down, but it should be pretty obvious in the bedroom.
Maynoth, most before and after surgery photos are taken within 1 week to six months of surgery and haven't had a proper chance to heal. Most gynecologists can't even tell once the healing has finished. If you are certian you can always tell you may have limited sample skewing your perspective.
Also, all the traits that you described as being "only in men" occur in cisgender women as well, not as commonly, certainly, but they do occur. Also the opposite is true, plenty of people born male don't have these traits.
I'm transgender myself and I lack both the adams apple and the knob you speak of and I didn't begin hormone therapy until I was 24 and I haven't had any surgeries yet. There is no "male and female" as some sort of binary toggle in any species. Its always a spectrum from one extreme to the other. In our culture we've defined them in a binary sense, taking both extremes and treating them as the only options but the majority of people fall somewhere in the middle, generally leaning more toward one side or the other excepting in the case of intersex disorders where the individual is closer to the middle. As far as genetics go, the body is not defined by whether you have xx or xy in your main genetic code but by your karyotype. There are cisgender women with xy choromosomes because when their body was forming in the womb, only the X chromosome passed to the karyotic cells even though they have a Y chromosome.
Oh and since I scrolled through the thread I'll mention that I'm lesbian both sexually and romantically.
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Small fact.....we are all born bisexual....it is through exploration/experimentation as children that we find ourselves pulled to one end or the other...nurture enforces or condemns what we discover of our nature...
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Quotes:
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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RyuJin wrote: Small fact.....we are all born bisexual....it is through exploration/experimentation as children that we find ourselves pulled to one end or the other...nurture enforces or condemns what we discover of our nature...
I agree with this overall but think its more that we are all born with a leaning towards attraction in a particular direction, though this isn't, in most people, a dominating factor and the experimentation and nurture is what bring us to our "final" sexuality but there is a predisposition. Food for thought: http://www.nimbios.org/press/FS_homosexuality
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Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Quotes:
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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