The American gun Laws.....can it remain as it is?

It did make a difference in Australia, apparently having the number of gun related deaths. It just puts the burden of response onto Police and makes defensive security the priority for citizens... as opposed to offensive security (shooting each other).

ren wrote:

Don't those people wonder why they have laws and government at all?

FYI. "Those people" was a phrase in referience to people of African origin. It was implied they were not main stream humanity and thought of as less than equally human. Just something to think about when you say "those" people. I wouldn't want to think you were thinking they were less than everyone else just because they think and believe differently.

I'm not sure "those people" is just used as a racial thing. "Those people" is a phrase that as been used to describe many different people in many different ways.

Came in here to say this. Could be what brits call transplanted frenchies, or alabama football fans call auburn fans. Let's not jump to conclusions.

It's not a step taken if you don't have a gun in the first place. I think it would be pretty safe to assume that 99% of the anti gun advocates do not or have never owned a gun.

Practice what you preach, lead by example ?

You're basically saying peace advocates do not take the first step toward peace because they didn't go to war to begin with...

Wendaline wrote: I'm not sure "those people" is just used as a racial thing. "Those people" is a phrase that as been used to describe many different people in many different ways.

Good point. I wasn't making this a racial statment but to illustrate how the term "those people" is a way to seperate a group and attempt to make them less human becauuse they don't share the ideals of anothers belief that is convinced of their superiority.

Rickie The Grey wrote:

Wendaline wrote: I'm not sure "those people" is just used as a racial thing. "Those people" is a phrase that as been used to describe many different people in many different ways.

Good point. I wasn't making this a racial statment but to illustrate how the term "those people" is a way to seperate a group and attempt to make them less human becauuse they don't share the ideals of anothers belief that is convinced of their superiority.

True, true.

ren wrote:

It's not a step taken if you don't have a gun in the first place. I think it would be pretty safe to assume that 99% of the anti gun advocates do not or have never owned a gun.

Practice what you preach, lead by example ?

You're basically saying peace advocates do not take the first step toward peace because they didn't go to war to begin with...

Not at all. If I wanted to say that then I would have said that.

I am practicing what I preach. I am pro peace and pro gun. I know about guns, I experienced them, and I have taken the time to do a little research. The same can not be said for all gun advocates or anti gun people.

You are equating law to peace. I know differently.

It's illegal to murder one another. That law did not stop the school shooting. Laws do not equal safety.

And those who wish to strip others of freedoms are not necessarily "leading by example"

I mean, ren, you have somethine that I don't think you should. I want you to give it up and if you don't I'm going to pass a law that will make you. And not only make you, but make you pay too. So, ren, pay me 100 bucks to take away that item, okay? Oh and that item is worth anywhere from 500-5000 bucks. Give it to me and I'll keep it for you, because I'm trustworthy.

Does that sound at all normal???

Anyone look at the new gun control law in New York State rammed through legislation by the Governor?

Rickie The Grey wrote: Anyone look at the new gun control law in New York State rammed through legislation by the Governor?

No

But I did read an article about Texas welcoming in all the gun owners from NY. :laugh: Ahhh Texas