The American gun Laws.....can it remain as it is?

lol back when i took the test the m14 was still on active duty in the navy...it was replaced 2 years later...it fires a 308 round...but soooo friggin heavy...

they didn't change the working uni's to the nifty blue camo's till over 10years after i got out i didn't like the blueberry uni's....not a fan of bell bottoms

i was reading back over the wiki on the m14...replaced in gen service by the 16 in 1970, but still used (!) somewhat, mostly as a sniper weapon (heavier, longer range rounds) in specops units. i forgot that OPFOR at JRTC uses them as well, looks more like an ak, i imagine.

post 1970 service

I just thought I would chime in on this longstanding argument over regulating guns...

A gun is a metal tube sealed at one end where powder and a projectile are inserted, the powder ignited and the pressure created forces the projectile out of the open end of the tube.

When you think about it there really doesn't need to be government regulation on this there just needs to be a unanimously held belief that such a device should not be pointed towards a person. That is what we have lost in our society. Guns have been in this country since long before this was a country but the idea of one being used to shoot innocent children in schools is recent. We must ask ourselves what we have changed to allow this situation to be created?

I believe democracy is best used with a bit of skepticism and guns in the American psyche are what keep the trust. While this behavior is rooted in fear, it is deeply rooted in many.

Therefore, assuming guns are here to stay, how can violent sociopaths be prevented from having access to them? They can't. On a state level FFA licenses can attempt to prevent shady dealers and those dealers can run background checks and have waiting periods to prevent emotional outbursts resulting in violence. This is what is done... It then goes to the owner to ensure those guns are secure and that no one else obtains use of them. I think this is where the biggest drop of the ball occurs. Do most gun owners keep their guns in a safe to prevent theft? No, many do but not all (I admit I don't just can't afford one at the moment). Maybe therein lies the answer for keeping potentially dangerous objects away from those wishing harm on innocent people? I honestly don't know but I do think the key is a change in society to turn violence into taboo...

ren wrote: Running around buying as much as you can for twice the regular price if necessary in fear the supply might dwindle = addiction.

:laugh: You have a point there. But would that just fall under human stupidty? The whole sheep thing? One gets startled so the rest run too.

KageKeeper wrote: So the answer is ban everyone's guns because of the times some

i never said ban all, i just said that maybe the rules to having a gun should be stricter, only given to people who have proven they aren't some maniac.

Also, i wasnt trying to imply that everyone gets punished, i know that in different countries, there are different cultures, different traditions, different rules. all i meant was, like i said above, punish the ones who mistreat, and introduce something that will prevent misuse of a gun in the future. well as much as stopping the cookoo brains from getting their hands on them, i dont know about normal everyday looking people with kind hearts that will turn bad...

Desolous wrote: i was reading back over the wiki on the m14...replaced in gen service by the 16 in 1970, but still used (!) somewhat, mostly as a sniper weapon (heavier, longer range rounds) in specops units. i forgot that OPFOR at JRTC uses them as well, looks more like an ak, i imagine.

post 1970 service

Yeah we trained with m16's in boot, but all the rifle quals were m14 at the time I was in....and they really are heeeeaaavvvy ....all of the weight was on the barrel end....it's kind of funny you mentioning specops...one of my collateral duties was base specops (their fancy term for base security's swat)...mostly we used the m4 and sig sauer p228's

On topic, I agree that gun owners should keep them in a gun safe, or at least keep a trigger lock on them to prevent accidents, or tragedies...background checks are already done, but that doesn't prevent people from buying guns for others...as it is when a firearm is purchased it's rifling (the spiral pattern inside the barrel) is recorded and registered to the purchaser, that's how they track bullets to the gun that fired them...if the gun gets stolen or resold privately this becomes useless

all i can say is being american i chreish our gun laws there doesnt need to be restrictions on guns or clips there needs to be tougher screenings for the people that buy guns there are more stabings in the uk do they need to ban knifes no that will never happen if you think about it they saying why let a few bad apples ruin it for the bunch comes to mind

That argument is specious, to say the least. Why let some bad apples ruin it for the bunch? The same reason heavy drugs like meth, cocaine and heroin are outlawed: they are more likely to be abused, leading to heavy damage or death. The same reason DUI laws were implemented decades ago.

Those 'bad apples', whoever they may be, cuz we can't always tell who they are, did not just ruin it for the bunch. They illustrated how broken of a system this has become, when one person with the legally obtained weapons he can carry can enter a location and kill, kill, kill to his hearts content.

Obama said it best in a recent speech: we have a responsibility to help insure that another Sandy Hook, another Columbine, another (wherever) does not occur, through whatever means are available to us.

And our responsibility as JEDI is to help protect life, in all forms, not to defend the ability to take it more quickly.

Now they're talking about fingerprinting ammo purchases (already done in cali)....big brother further monitoring the legal people and ignoring the criminals....someone intent on killing is going to get their guns and ammo no matter what restrictions big brother enforces....the only ones that won't get them are the ones that will become victims to the determined predators....

Last night I bought a sawed off 410 bore....afterwards I measured it and found it to be a tad short of the federal standard....so it's gonna stay locked up until I can rifle it(which would reclassify it from shotgun to rifle/pistol) ...considering the type of people I bought it from (skinheads) it's safer for everyone locked up in my gun safe than in their hands....they had to sell it due to probation requirements....

Bigger guns.