The American gun Laws.....can it remain as it is?

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29 Dec 2012 18:30 - 29 Dec 2012 18:31 #85945 by Ben

david tatum wrote: it is our god given right to bear arms

No matter which side of the debate people are on, I mean...come on...really?

"And the 11th commandment was - let the Americans have guns".

I don't remember reading that in the Bible ;)

Not saying it's not a right (not saying it is either...), but let's leave God out of this... :laugh:

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29 Dec 2012 18:45 #85947 by ren
Isn't everything that happens god-given? Gun ownership, war, homosexuality? :whistle: :evil:

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29 Dec 2012 19:33 - 29 Dec 2012 19:42 #85966 by
We have an inalienable right to "LIFE, LIBERTY, and The PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS".

This is a right that is granted by your right to self preservation, your right to LIFE. God, The Force, the whatever you believe, granted you life in which no one has the right to take it away. I feel that knives, guns, arrows, basically any weapon is just that, a way to preserve ones life from the dangers of this world. A way to match your attacker with equal force. It is the act of instigating a violent act that needs to be addressed, not the defense of ones life.

There is no way to stop violent acts by taking guns away or by giving more guns, or by taking away assault weapons, pistols or whatever. Violence is a fact of life, a truth that we must come to terms with. We must work to find the reasons for the violence and fix those, not the symptoms of the disease. You cannot cure a heart attack by wiping sweat from your forehead.

Another thought...

If you place a loaded gun on a table and no one touches it, it is not a deadly weapon. It is not until a person picks it up with hostile intent that it becomes deadly., but by no consent of its own.

If you throw a ball against a wall, does it return because of the actions of the wall, or because you threw it?
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29 Dec 2012 20:03 #85970 by ren
Accidental discharge without trigger involvement?

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29 Dec 2012 20:32 - 29 Dec 2012 20:34 #85973 by
Ren...Really???

The odds are so staggering it isn't worth you mentioning.

Now lets compare accidental firearm discharge without trigger involvement with accidental discharge and teen pregnancy.
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29 Dec 2012 21:04 #85978 by

Andy Spalding wrote: 'MERICA


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Sorry to do this in a serious thread, but LOL!

That's a funny pic.

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29 Dec 2012 22:05 #85986 by ren

Phortis Nespin wrote: Ren...Really???

The odds are so staggering it isn't worth you mentioning.

Now lets compare accidental firearm discharge without trigger involvement with accidental discharge and teen pregnancy.


Point is, it remains a deadly weapon... Some random guy passing by doesn't have to do anything to it to transform it into a deadly weapon. Except pick it up. Harder to get a teenage girl pregnant than it is to pick up a gun and shoot.

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29 Dec 2012 22:19 #85990 by
teen girls are also deadly weapons. discuss.

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29 Dec 2012 22:23 #85992 by ren

Desolous wrote: teen girls are also deadly weapons. discuss.


Nothing to discuss dude, everyone knows that. It's like... a fact of life. A constant, through time and space. :laugh:

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29 Dec 2012 22:23 #85993 by RyuJin
I don't want to see any sort of gun ban...it would only make it harder for the honest/good people to defend themselves from all the idiotic savages that obtain their weapons illegally, now some will say "but what about the police?"..to which I reply "can you really trust them, besides there's way more citizens than police, they can't be everywhere"....

Sadly as long as there are people in the world with the desire to kill innocents, the innocents will need a means of leveling the field...

Unfortunately, thanks to recent events and the mass media's over exposure of them I feel that a ban will be pushed through without the peoples approval all in "their best interest"...when it will also serve as a distraction from the economic situation, and the ridiculous bipartisan bullcrap going on in the government

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