Wendaline wrote:
ren wrote:
And, Ren, that's awesome that you love your country and feel safe in it. That's what matters, right? I also love and feel safe in my country (guns included of course).
... Except it isn't my country.
So, you're not British? Then what is your country if it's not the one you live in?
And although some guns do come from the US they are also obtained from many other countries as well. You know, like when militaries get rid of old stuff. A lot of German, French, Russian, Italian, etc. guns make it over here too (New and old)...even some British ones but those aren't as common.
Though, I do wonder if the Mexican people would feel safer or be safer if honest citizens had freer access to guns instead of just letting thugs have them. Because that's what happens when they become illegal. Criminals have 'em and good people suffer for it. And the Government has yet to save them.
Another thing, do anti-gunners feel that those who have been saved by a firearm should have died instead? Because there are many, many, many times when a law abiding citizen has had to use one to save themselves. Why do they feel their rights are more important than ours? Why should I have to give up a freedom so others can have a false sense of security? Kind of a, "If you can't trust me then I can't trust you." kind of a thing.
I'm french. And in my country there are quite a lot of guns. But no-one except the serious criminals dare get them out because they know their lives would be over if they did. (also they tend to be quite old and I think it'd take guts to fire one) only hunters can have hunting guns, during hunting season. No conceal and carry there, owning = straight to jail. I think (I'd have to check though) most deaths as a result of firearm use are hunting accidents and suicides. But homicides are still too high.
Then come the criminals. criminals are usually well armed. and use modern guns. And I think the main reason for this is that other criminals are well armed, and the police is well armed. The gendarmerie (most french cops) are actually with the military, and they are fairly well armed. What I like about the UK is that even the police isn't armed. Only special police forces are. Criminals know they are better off not using guns. And as a result there is little violent crime. And the petty criminals remain petty.
Not long ago on a military base in the US, a guy went crazy and started shooting his former mates. He managed to kill 13 and injure 29. Considering the guy was a shrink, I find it strange he managed to kill and injure this many soldiers. On an american base. On US soil. I wonder what things would have been like had they all been unarmed. (obviously I'm not saying the military should disarm itself, simply looking at a situation where everyone was a highly trained, responsible, uniformed patriotic you-name-it gun owner)
