The Battle to Decriminalize All Drugs

You cited govt sites for your info? The same gov't that spends billions each year prosecuting and incarcerating minor offenders the same one wiretapping your phones and comps right now? The same one that wasted hundreds of billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives in the void known as iraq? The same one that lies to you so frequently and blatantly that its simply expected by now?

Have you ever heard the term 'consider your sources', star forge?

Desolous wrote: You cited govt sites for your info? The same gov't that spends billions each year prosecuting and incarcerating minor offenders the same one wiretapping your phones and comps right now? The same one that wasted hundreds of billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives in the void known as iraq? The same one that lies to you so frequently and blatantly that its simply expected by now?

Have you ever heard the term 'consider your sources', star forge?

Those things don't make the government wrong on this issue. As a Southerner, you should understand personal responsibility.

Minor offenders being incarcerated-
Why the hell did they consider weed to be worth that sort of a risk? They knew what they were getting into?
Wiretaps-
I don't agree with infringement upon privacy, but on the other hand, joke's on whoever thinks they can communicate sensitive information electronically. Until they read my mail or put mics in my home, I'm unconcerned.
Iraq- A pointless war, but so were the World Wars, the Civil War, the Spanish-American War, the Korean War, and all pretty much every war the US has been in since the Revolution, but nobody complained until Vietnam. They aren't using conscription, though, so I don't care. I sympathize with the soldiers, but ultimately, they chose to enlist.

One can avoid being screwed over by simply choosing not to be screwed over. And the fact that the government affords us the choice to be screwed over doesn't make their drug facts wrong.

Star Forge wrote: Marijuana use over time screws with brain development in younger smokers, can trigger psychotic symptoms that would have otherwise remained latent, causes testicular cancer, impairs judgement (when not high), damages the immune system, impairs memory and learning ability, to name a few things, in addition to the fact that it intoxicates the person smoking. Have your drug habit, fine by me, but don't expect people to approve or tolerate the overt expression of it.

Almost all claims in above quote, debunked by scientific evidence.

Exposing Marijuana Myths: A Review of the Scientific Evidence
John P. Morgan and Lynn Zimmer

http://cannabisfakta.swecan.org/08-zi-mo.pdf

Star - One of those sites is a government information site that doesn't cite any studies or sources and the other is from an anti-drug abuse site so I have my doubts as to whether this study is unbiased. Also, they specify adolescents and I don't think adolescents should be doing ANY kind of drug, from marijuana to alcohol. That does not rule out fully mature adults, however.

rugadd wrote: Star - One of those sites is a government information site that doesn't cite any studies or sources and the other is from an anti-drug abuse site so I have my doubts as to whether this study is unbiased. Also, they specify adolescents and I don't think adolescents should be doing ANY kind of drug, from marijuana to alcohol. That does not rule out fully mature adults, however.

I'm not recanting the contents of the previous links, as I believe the government does its research, but if you want one that has abundant citations, here you go. http://www.cnbc.com/id/36267223

Star Forge wrote:

rugadd wrote: Star - One of those sites is a government information site that doesn't cite any studies or sources and the other is from an anti-drug abuse site so I have my doubts as to whether this study is unbiased. Also, they specify adolescents and I don't think adolescents should be doing ANY kind of drug, from marijuana to alcohol. That does not rule out fully mature adults, however.

I'm not recanting the contents of the previous links, as I believe the government does its research, but if you want one that has abundant citations, here you go. http://www.cnbc.com/id/36267223

*reads article*

*reads comments*

*chuckles to himself*

:laugh:

Proteus wrote:

Star Forge wrote:

rugadd wrote: Star - One of those sites is a government information site that doesn't cite any studies or sources and the other is from an anti-drug abuse site so I have my doubts as to whether this study is unbiased. Also, they specify adolescents and I don't think adolescents should be doing ANY kind of drug, from marijuana to alcohol. That does not rule out fully mature adults, however.

I'm not recanting the contents of the previous links, as I believe the government does its research, but if you want one that has abundant citations, here you go. http://www.cnbc.com/id/36267223

*reads article*

*reads comments*

*chuckles to himself*

:laugh:

I'm sorry that you all feel the need to defend your drug addiction. I've shown you the truth, and there are others who can do a far better job than me. I'm catching the hypothetical next ship to Malaysia. Have fun with the collapse of Western society.

I suggest you read the comments on the article you just posted. I don't need to list the reasons why this article is off because it is all right there.

And throwing the chessboard on the floor and declaring yourself the winner doesn't make it so...unless your really into Zen I guess.

rugadd wrote: And throwing the chessboard on the floor and declaring yourself the winner doesn't make it so...unless your really into Zen I guess.

For what it's worth, I am more into the thought of Miyamoto Musashi, and his "Going My Way," rather than Zen.

However, I see no point in debating the obvious. We can argue all day over whose statistics are right, that will get us nowhere. My personal experience, and that of others, has shown me that weed and other drugs lead to no good. While I believe that the current laws in place in the USA are inefficient, I believe that such as substance has no place outside of strictly controlled medical use. I'm sorry there is no link I can cut and paste from my personal experiences, to show all the lives I have seen ruined by drugs as "benign" as weed.