Lightsaber Training

Sincrad wrote:

for every one that is tring to tell me im wrong or that im saying things to make my self look better im sorry.
no man rules my destiny

Actually...one does...it's you! LOL

Twsoundsoff wrote:

Sincrad wrote:

for every one that is tring to tell me im wrong or that im saying things to make my self look better im sorry.
no man rules my destiny

Actually...one does...it's you! LOL

Not really im not a man yet...that why i posponed my rank as a jedi knight when you asked the other day.im still a boy a padawon learning form the masters.(so as master you should be careful with how you say things)
if i was to rule my own life or become a Jedi knight i would be setting my self up for failure.I'm not ready for any of them soon I'll be ready for one but the other will take allot more time.

Sincrad wrote:

Twsoundsoff wrote:

Sincrad wrote:

for every one that is tring to tell me im wrong or that im saying things to make my self look better im sorry.
no man rules my destiny

Actually...one does...it's you! LOL

Not really im not a man yet...that why i posponed my rank as a jedi knight when you asked the other day.im still a boy a padawon learning form the masters.(so as master you should be careful with how you say things)
if i was to rule my own life or become a Jedi knight i would be setting my self up for failure.I'm not ready for any of them soon I'll be ready for one but the other will take allot more time.

Well now youre just being silly. Thinking youre old enough or not...thinking youre ready enough or not...youre still responsible for your life. As for the prescription of being careful of how Things are said...they are always said exactly as they need to be said in that moment...as long as one is attuned to the Force. Don't let yourself be your biggest barrier... Open your heart and realize that no matter what you think...you think. therefore you are the lock AND the key.

Sincrad wrote:

Now THAT, is an interesting statement......Exactly how did you come to that conclusion? And if you want to look at it that way, what of the folk who have no desire to wield a blade, or stave, or gun?

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Why are you brining other FOLK into this this isn't about me being better than any one.
plz read the hole post. this is about Dan saying

\"We will never use sword in combat\"

to me that means \"DANNY YOU WILL NEVER USE A SWORD\"
its sounds like an order because its coming from a higher rank
only soldiers follow orders without question. \"Jedi are not soldiers\"
Dan you are a master im here to learn form you.Not do what you tell me to.

normally id be the one working with both sides to figure out what both sides should do.But right now im just defending my self against a group of people that are supposed to be diplomats.
sorry but if your picking a side you've stopped being a diplomats and you've become one of the fighters.
for ever one that just posted a weapon preference MTFBWY
for every one that is tring to tell me im wrong or that im saying things to make my self look better im sorry.
no man rules my destiny[/quote]

Ok, easy there Tiger. First, you did say that by practicing the sword, i.e. \"When and where to use it\", makes you more of a Jedi than those who just come in here to post. Secondly, I am also a Master, but I'm not taking sides, I was asking for clarification on your statement about being more Jedi than those who come in here only to post.

On a last note, I do have to take a personal interest in your comment on soldiers following orders without question, for future reference, we don't, not myself, and not most of my brothers and sisters. If you have that mindset, you should perhaps sit and talk with some of the soldiers that are here as Jedi also.

As a Master myself, I am not here to attack anyone, if you feel that you were attacked, you are misinterpreting thing that are being said, none of us here, are trying to attack you, and we are not giving orders to you. Dan merely made a statement on a personal belief of his that, \"You will never use a sword in combat\", he wasn't saying \"YOU\", he was generalizing. We are all here to learn from each other, not Master from Apprentice, for we as Master's, know that we are going to be astounded by some of the things that \"Apprentices\" do or say, it's a revolving door, a never ending cycle. Please, please please, do not take things that people are telling you as orders, tasks perhaps, but, completing them, or not, is up to the person the task is given too, no one can make them do it, we are all in control of our destiny, the Force just offers guidelines on how we should live in the completion of the destiny.
MTFBWY

The sword is nothing more than an instrument in our hands. It does what we want and are capable of doing. So it is with words! Every slash, swing, stab...translates what we feel, think and hope for. Words used in the wrong way can be quite hurtful and swords very much deadly.

Agreed Br. Jon. All weapons, swords, knives, staves, baseball bats, clubs, whatever.....are all tools. Alone, they are harmless, human beings, who love so much to blame weapons for people being killed by them, are blind to the fact that, if left alone, a tool, is nothing more than an intricate paper-weight. Same with words, though, with words, whether or not they sting, is upon the individual on the receiving end of the words. Sticks and Stones, blah blah blah.

As for me, yes, I know that I sometimes come off as being harsh, that's who I am, my words are not intended to be so, but, that's how people take them, being that I'm military, I do things slightly different than most others would think of doing. But regardless, I'm not going to argue with anyone's weapon of choice, especially a sword, I love them, I do sword fighting albeit with rattan swords, in mideival reenactments.

Just remember, no matter what others may think, the most dangerous weapon on the face of Earth, is the human being, because we have minds that are geared towards destruction, and the ultimate game of one-upsmanship.

Br. Shaun FDC wrote:

Just remember, no matter what others may think, the most dangerous weapon on the face of Earth, is the human being, because we have minds that are geared towards destruction, and the ultimate game of one-upsmanship.

Br. Shaun, this is a great statement. We have no fear of the evil outside, or inside. If we lose the path, and our inherent evil takes over, that is where the Jedi training comes in. Our 'minds geared toward destruction' are what is so dangerous about learning about weapons of any kind. Stick to the path, and it will be lightsabers for all!! (metaphorically of course, since I have already taken the stance that having a lightsaber will never happen.)

I would like to choose the nuclear bomb, as my weapon of choice. I think it is the ultimate wake up call, and it is also unbiased, so by using it your saying, I can't win, but niether will you. Besides, all the guns,swords, knives, staves and all the words couldn't stand up to it, so it trumps all, therefore destroying all, and eventually starting anew.

I also like the spit wad, it causes only damage to the ego, and that is usually where it hurts the most.

DK

Oh, and a side not to KeiranHalcyon, I would rather be near someone who knew how to use a weapon, than one who didn't. Weapons are far more dangerous when the weilder has no Idea what they are doing.

DK

Dhagon Krayt wrote:

Oh, and a side not to KeiranHalcyon, I would rather be near someone who knew how to use a weapon, than one who didn't. Weapons are far more dangerous when the weilder has no Idea what they are doing.

DK

Touche Dhagon! I am not advocating the non use of weapons. My whole life has been a fight, I just think the inherent evil we all possess, if not driven by the Light side, could lead to dangerous and evil situations. Don't wanna totally dork out here, but like when Palpatine came into possession of the Death Star.

Its not necessary to be driven by the light side, I'm not and I know lots of weapons and how to use them (thanks uncle sam) yet I know how to control my inner urges to run the driver who cut me off, over a bridge to plunge to his inherent death.

DK

Yes, the moron behind the wheel, could also be a lesson in learning to control your \"Dark Side\".

Well I know I`m in safe hands Br.Dhagon when I drive on the roads again!

Br. Shaun FDC wrote:

Sincrad wrote:

Now THAT, is an interesting statement......Exactly how did you come to that conclusion? And if you want to look at it that way, what of the folk who have no desire to wield a blade, or stave, or gun?

Ok, easy there Tiger. First, you did say that by practicing the sword, i.e. \"When and where to use it\", makes you more of a Jedi than those who just come in here to post. Secondly, I am also a Master, but I'm not taking sides, I was asking for clarification on your statement about being more Jedi than those who come in here only to post.
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FIRST Sorry i dont mean to bring up past discusions but for the last time its \"KNOWING WHEN TO USE AND WHEN NOT TO USE A SWORD MAKES ME MORE JEDI THAN POSTING ON LINE\" SECOND you should be more careful when you quote some one. I never brought other people in to this.Br. Shaun when you said

\"I was asking for clarification on your statement about being more Jedi than \"(those)\" who come in here only to post.\" you quoted me wrong.

im not here to make my self seem better than any one;and when you nit pick at my statements while using words like\"FIRST\"or\"SECOND\" your making a point.When you make a point that means some one is wrong <----GOOD POINT that means im wrong. At this point i really dont care who is right or wrong anymore because any more Jedi masters that post will just be justifying their'e point instead of seeing what im really trying to say. .As masters you should be more careful with what you say because you are right words can do just as much damage as a sword.thank for helping me realize some thing...but you didnt stop to ask your self.\"Do i want him to realize some thing he probably didnt want to realize in the first place?\"

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My Code of Honor

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/Virtue: You dont need a reason to help people
/Devotion: I will always change, but I will always be myself.
/Sorrow: How do you prove you exist...? Maybe we dont exist...
/Dilemma: Having sworn fealty, must I spend my life in servitude?
/Indulgence: I do what I want! Do you have a problem!?
/Arrogance: The only dependable thing about the future is uncertainty.
/Despair: To be forgotten is worse than death.
/Solitude: do not walk behinde me for a may not lead you,do not walk ahead of me for i may not follow dont walk beside me for i may not need you,just know that im here.

well since you all ignored what i said last time, then we can go. i find it kinda funny that everyone is getting mad. \"master cant order me to do things, just tell me how to live.\" not exact quote but close. then danny will never use a sword in combat. first to use my name like that is disrespectful. i never disrespected anyone here don't do it to me. everyone took the main word i used and forgot about the other words, so who is closed minded now. i said a open statement which i say again now a days in a war zone. if you use it for a peaceful meditation, or training thats different. i use them for those purposes. and to be honest people who believe them selves to be jedi masters maybe should take a reread at what has been actually said. sincrad you're words have been thrown around with out others actually reading the meaning. shawn you are took quick to throw out you're intelligence in being a jedi than the meaning in what you are trying to say. thats why people get mad at you for they don't look for the meaning just at the words. which sadly many will do with this post. and i ask you if you quote me don't pick and choose what you want get the whole thing in there. sincrad when you use a sword in battle in this day of age, then let me know and i will rebute that comment. i have no problem being wrong but as of right now unless you have killed someone or hurt someone on purpose with this sword than you have no point. people are getting to mad at something that is just a statement that you cant let you're self understand the meaning. or maybe you re lookin to into it. many do that aswell. i asked once to let all this go, and you all ignored me. now i ask you again lets get back to the main topic of saber training, so for those who are not experts can find more information. also like i said before if you would like to discuss this then pm me let this stop here. this is not master to temple order, this is one man asking others to chill out and relax. oh and no more screwing around my name that is disrespectful i cant stress that enough.
we are all jedi right, then this should be easy. good day all. MTFBWUA

DAN wrote:

then danny will never use a sword in combat. first to use my name like that is disrespectful. i never disrespected anyone here don't do it to me. MTFBWUA

I didnt even read the rest of your rant because you should get your facts straight DAN
IM DANNY thats my name!!! so i didnt disrespect any one thanks
well not till now...
THANKS AGAIN MASTER

Um.....Dan, I only used the title of Master, as it was given me when I was ordained a Bishop, or as I prefer First Degree Cleric. I claim mastery over no one, never have. And please, being that my name is spelled plainly by my user name, could you spell it properly?

I was not throwing my intelligence around, I try to not do that. I was going off the basis of a statement made, and forgive me for how I put it Sincrad, but, if read one way, which I probably did misread it, but, could be taken that way by others also, you did say that you were more jedi like than those who post. Don't start on throwing things around again, as I said, I probably misread it, but, so could others. We are all here to learn from one another after all. However, I won't apologize if I misread, because it has already been said, and apologies change nothing. As for people getting mad at me, I could not care less if they do, it's their prerogative.

I think I could count myself as one of those who has missread it. I understood this as did Br.Shaun.

...Carry on my warward son, there'll be peace when you are done....

Just lyrics? Or good advice?

...Whats in a name? If a rose were not called a rose, would it smell less sweet?...

Just poetry? Or a lesson to learn?

...Anger, inprisoning me, all that I see, absolute horror, I cannot live, I cannot die, trapped in my self, body my holding cell...

More lyrics? Or grim future for those who cannot control their emotions?

DK

Blasphemy, I say it again, blasphemy!!!....

I messed up the words to a Metallica song, may Lars or Kurt strike me down with great vengence and furious anger!!

It should read:

...DARKNESS, inprisoning me, all that I see (and so on)

My bad.

DK