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4 years 11 months ago #327420 by Carlos.Martinez3
Before you can study God, or the Force, first you must demonstrate that it even exists.

For some this is true and for others the exact opposite is part of the reasons for faith.
If you need evidence, by all means , seek it out but be carful to assume “everyone” needs evidence.

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4 years 11 months ago - 4 years 11 months ago #327421 by
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Kyrin, your mind is closed. You know of my leaning to Abrahamic practice, but it didn't give you the inclination to ask for clarification. No, you preceded to assume my beliefs as if you understood them and claim they are inconsistent. Especially, since you call them mythological. Such is the mind of those who worship science and shun anything immaterial as "fantastical". Even though their very thoughts are immaterial.. and I find your lack of faith.. disturbing..

If you expect to find material evidence of the immaterial aspects of The Force. Then you have already failed. The ONLY thing you could find using physical testing is its effects on our maternal world.. not the substance itself..

A little deeper study would go a long way.. for one, the Scientific Method isn't limited to the physical. Only the means we usually use to apply the method.. stop being so dismissive..
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4 years 11 months ago #327422 by
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You do know the bible forbids mediumship, right?

Would you understand that law and its connection to Egypt? Of course you wouldn't.. Seeing as you probably didn't know ancient Egyptian priests studied the astral-realm, obe's, and the like..

I applied the Scientific Method to my own astral experience. Which confirmed my faith. I am not blind by a long shot..

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4 years 11 months ago #327423 by
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Carlos.Martinez3 wrote: Before you can study God, or the Force, first you must demonstrate that it even exists.

For some this is true and for others the exact opposite is part of the reasons for faith.
If you need evidence, by all means , seek it out but be carful to assume “everyone” needs evidence.


How do you study something that does not exist? This is not a claim either way, Im just asking how this could be done? If you assume something exists, (have faith) but have no way of understanding that thing or studying it you are just guessing. If something exists but does not interact with our reality how can you tell it from something that does not exist at all? And if something does exist and does interact with our reality then that means there would be ways to show that existence with evidence that can be reproduced and thus studied.

Is there any conclusion you could not come to using faith? I could have faith that there is an invisible unicorn in my garage. But if I have no way of demonstrating that unicorns existence what good is that faith? If that unicorn does not exist I would be acting in error to assume through faith that it does exist. This becomes an exercise in futility and so faith becomes an unreliable path to truth. Given this unreliable aspect why would you continue to rely on it?

This is not being closed minded, it is being skeptical. There is a difference. Closed minded dismisses the possibility of the unicorn existing. Skeptical, on the other hand, does not do this but also does not accept claims of faith. Instead it relies on other mechanisms to accurately arrive at actual truths. And in aspects of reality in which we may not have ready explanations, the answer to that truth is simply "I do not know". And that answer has to be sufficient instead of just making something up to fill that gap in knowledge with a God or a Force there is no evidence for.

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4 years 11 months ago #327424 by Carlos.Martinez3
Let us also remember - each path represented here is as difrent as night and day - up and down -ying and yang- this or that- some paths only have ceartain avenues and some are currently exploring new ones. Before we so easly put the labels on others - bear in mind - we are all learning , myself included. To say one is closed minded is to reveal our own intentions at times. What a world this would be if we gave grace just as quickly as any other descriptive label...
There was a moment in time when I realized - well, none of us are the same- Kinna kissed me off till I learned to say - that too is ok! After that - I wasn’t arguing or quibbelimg as much. Somthing to think about. May the Force be with us all!

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4 years 11 months ago #327425 by
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Uzima Moto wrote: You do know the bible forbids mediumship, right?


You do understand that not everyone that practices mediumship follows the bible though right? So is it forbidden for them? Or are you making an assumption of authority not in evidence in your bible?

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