A question of The Force.
4 years 11 months ago #327440
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My faith is based in a real inspection of my experience. I've always been that way. I've done a few experiments with it that someone else can repeat.
Example, I had my first experience with astral projection when I was around 10 years old. I was on a road trip with family. I had fallen asleep and got caught in a sleep paralysis. It wasn't my first time with that lol. I even had a method of wiggling my toe to make me snap back. This time was different. I couldn't shake it. I was wiggling half my foot I think, nothing..
I couldn't call out, move, nothing was working. Then the panic wanted to set in after awhile. I thought I was trapped, or that I could even die. All of a sudden the scenery caught my attention. It was familiar for some reason. Then it hit me. "We're outside of town! We're here!".. Surprised me so much that it snapped me back. There we were, the sign was right down the road. What surprised me was that I could see where we were.. but it wasn't for a few years before I actually figured out how to project..
Now, I had never heard of astral projection. Wouldn't til I was a junior in high school. So, somehow I figured that if I could get really tired but keep my mind focused on a single cohesive train of thought. As I slipped into my sleep, my mind would continue as if it was awake.. bam, I'm looking at myself on the couch..
That didn't convince me though. I could justbe imagining what I last saw with what I might expect to see. I came up with a game to test it. I would try to see who's car would be pulling in to park. The parking was right in front of our balcony. I really didn't know who would pull up at what times. I never gave it much thought, I was 13.
I would go to sleep at night. Intent on projecting. When the lights pulled up. I would look outside. See it, then wake up to confirm what I saw. Each time it worked. I did multiple cars every session. I tried to stay skeptical so my mind would make its own thought-forms... like how you can control your dreams sometimes.. The results had me astonished. I couldn't believe it, but it was real.. Eventually, I would go on to adventure further out ourapartment.. but that's when I learned how real it can be.. when you're staring down a black mass that's barking back. Then it pursues you so fast that contact seems almost instantaneous. It was a terror I had NEVER experienced nor ever would again in my life. Even scared the nightmares out of me lol
My faith comes from experiences I studied and looked deep into.. I didn't conjure up this stuff in my head. As I would find later. I wasn't the only one having those experiences. The fact that you so easily claim that there's been no evidence or study goes against a nearly 10,000 year old tradition. It goes back to ancient Egypt and China. I'm probably assuming correctly that you haven't looked hard enough. Especially if you expect someone to just present you with some physical evidence of non-physical substances.. we're talking energy that doesn't resonate like matter.. which is energy also..
Example, I had my first experience with astral projection when I was around 10 years old. I was on a road trip with family. I had fallen asleep and got caught in a sleep paralysis. It wasn't my first time with that lol. I even had a method of wiggling my toe to make me snap back. This time was different. I couldn't shake it. I was wiggling half my foot I think, nothing..
I couldn't call out, move, nothing was working. Then the panic wanted to set in after awhile. I thought I was trapped, or that I could even die. All of a sudden the scenery caught my attention. It was familiar for some reason. Then it hit me. "We're outside of town! We're here!".. Surprised me so much that it snapped me back. There we were, the sign was right down the road. What surprised me was that I could see where we were.. but it wasn't for a few years before I actually figured out how to project..
Now, I had never heard of astral projection. Wouldn't til I was a junior in high school. So, somehow I figured that if I could get really tired but keep my mind focused on a single cohesive train of thought. As I slipped into my sleep, my mind would continue as if it was awake.. bam, I'm looking at myself on the couch..
That didn't convince me though. I could justbe imagining what I last saw with what I might expect to see. I came up with a game to test it. I would try to see who's car would be pulling in to park. The parking was right in front of our balcony. I really didn't know who would pull up at what times. I never gave it much thought, I was 13.
I would go to sleep at night. Intent on projecting. When the lights pulled up. I would look outside. See it, then wake up to confirm what I saw. Each time it worked. I did multiple cars every session. I tried to stay skeptical so my mind would make its own thought-forms... like how you can control your dreams sometimes.. The results had me astonished. I couldn't believe it, but it was real.. Eventually, I would go on to adventure further out ourapartment.. but that's when I learned how real it can be.. when you're staring down a black mass that's barking back. Then it pursues you so fast that contact seems almost instantaneous. It was a terror I had NEVER experienced nor ever would again in my life. Even scared the nightmares out of me lol
My faith comes from experiences I studied and looked deep into.. I didn't conjure up this stuff in my head. As I would find later. I wasn't the only one having those experiences. The fact that you so easily claim that there's been no evidence or study goes against a nearly 10,000 year old tradition. It goes back to ancient Egypt and China. I'm probably assuming correctly that you haven't looked hard enough. Especially if you expect someone to just present you with some physical evidence of non-physical substances.. we're talking energy that doesn't resonate like matter.. which is energy also..
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4 years 11 months ago #327441
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You are right 40 years of intense spiritual study, a degree in astrophysics and the attainment of high positions in two formal pagan traditions is probably not long enough or deep enough exploration for me to make any judgements lol.
Sorry but subjective personal assertions are not enough for me to accept your extraordinary claims as true. Would you believe me if I told you I have an invisible unicorn that keep in my garage? And this unicorn does not interact with reality in any conventional way so you wont be able to detect it but I have learned a secret 10,000 year old sumarian process that has been lost to the ages that has taught me how to interact with it.
In any case if you are truly capable of these amazing things you say you are then I encourage you to take James Randy's test. He has 1 million dollars as a prize for anyone that can prove they possess paranormal abilities. Think of it, that much money could do amazing things for Jedi such as yourself.
Sorry but subjective personal assertions are not enough for me to accept your extraordinary claims as true. Would you believe me if I told you I have an invisible unicorn that keep in my garage? And this unicorn does not interact with reality in any conventional way so you wont be able to detect it but I have learned a secret 10,000 year old sumarian process that has been lost to the ages that has taught me how to interact with it.
In any case if you are truly capable of these amazing things you say you are then I encourage you to take James Randy's test. He has 1 million dollars as a prize for anyone that can prove they possess paranormal abilities. Think of it, that much money could do amazing things for Jedi such as yourself.
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4 years 11 months ago - 4 years 11 months ago #327444
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Lol I'm not the only one. There are folks who can share that experience..
Apparently there are old little societies that have been doing this for a long time. Also regular private practitioners. All over the place really. It's in all kinds of ancient texts. I can't understand how you couldn't at least acknowledge that when I mentioned it before.. or where you got your thoughts on Abraham's Heaven.. given your 40 year history..
I'm kinda disappointed now otc lol
What's really funny though is that it's entirely possible for you to have an imaginary unicorn that didn't interact with the physical.. that would be creating a thought-form. It probably wouldn't do much though. That's part of lucid dreaming also, dream-bending lol.. The opposite mindset of what you would want to have if you're projecting.
Apparently there are old little societies that have been doing this for a long time. Also regular private practitioners. All over the place really. It's in all kinds of ancient texts. I can't understand how you couldn't at least acknowledge that when I mentioned it before.. or where you got your thoughts on Abraham's Heaven.. given your 40 year history..
I'm kinda disappointed now otc lol
What's really funny though is that it's entirely possible for you to have an imaginary unicorn that didn't interact with the physical.. that would be creating a thought-form. It probably wouldn't do much though. That's part of lucid dreaming also, dream-bending lol.. The opposite mindset of what you would want to have if you're projecting.
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I don't think anyone that could take the challenge would do it.. for a few reasons.. It's funny to me, personally.. looking for the right things in the wrong places lol
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4 years 11 months ago #327446
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The Force is very real and very subtle.. and also powerful.. It's sort of a dichotomy to it.. but more like the opposite ends of two magnets.. there is also very real, dark, and destructive evil that exists.. but The Light, The Force, works towards harmony.. balance, growth, improvement, order, etc..
In a lot of ways, it's impossible to even use words to accurately describe it. It can't be created nor destroyed. It just is and always has been.. creating and recreating..
In a lot of ways, it's impossible to even use words to accurately describe it. It can't be created nor destroyed. It just is and always has been.. creating and recreating..
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4 years 11 months ago #327452
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I wonder why so many people assert they can base supernatural powers in science but when this challenge is issued to test under that basis it is always met with excuses as to why it cant be done... I think were done here.
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Uzima Moto wrote: I don't think anyone that could take the challenge would do it.. for a few reasons.. It's funny to me, personally.. looking for the right things in the wrong places lol
I wonder why so many people assert they can base supernatural powers in science but when this challenge is issued to test under that basis it is always met with excuses as to why it cant be done... I think were done here.
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