"God Hates Gays"

I guess I misunderstood you

but in any event, I'm not keen on the end of my religion either. In fact, I can't think of any reason I would desire that.

I'm getting a little tired of being picked on for my beliefs here. I bumped heads with Ren but it seems that was more do to me being in a crappy mood and there was actually no offense intended on his part. Seems we may have gotten past that.

Why now, are you responding to each of my posts in such a confrontational manner? You're even hitting me on the things I say in humor in the "shout out". Did I do something to you?

Solar Centurion wrote: I'm getting a little tired of being picked on for my beliefs here. I bumped heads with Ren but it seems that was more do to me being in a crappy mood and there was actually no offense intended on his part. Seems we may have gotten past that.

Why now, are you responding to each of my posts in such a confrontational manner? You're even hitting me on the things I say in humor in the "shout out". Did I do something to you?

Oops, continued:

So this issue has been resolved with Ren? Then who, besides me, do you feel has offended you? I can't think of anyone. There's another generalization against this Temple, from someone who doesn't want to be generalized.

You said what you had say in Shout! was crude and not fit for a family site? That sounds like something that would be offensive. A day after you complain about the whole Temple not accepting and rejecting your beliefs, you become so presumptuous as to hint at making crude jokes that are bound to offend people?

'Aw, crap. Guess it was too much to hope the thread would go without a fight, somewhere.' James moaned. Jack nodded in agreement, almost sorrowfully. Though, admittedly, this argument was incredibly tame to some of the outright idiotic flame wars and trolling she'd seen on other internet sites but...

"Still, this is the Temple. I would have thought that the people here, if they have this bad a disagreement, would settle it in private conversation, or talk about it in a more debate form -- where we learn from each other instead of continuing to insist they see it 'our' way..."

'Dude, you sound like Jestor.' Daline commented, sneering. Jack considered this, 'Should we step in and say something?'

'Like, maybe... how did the mother in 'Burn Notice' say it? If you boys can live with that, shake and make up. If you can't, shake and make up, anyway. Because that's what grown ups do.' Kendalina agreed. Jack wanted to point out that that probably wasn't how the quote went, but, at the same time, Kendalina had lit up a death stick and looked in the mood to stick it somewhere unpleasant if someone made her mad.

"How about I just go for the middle route and advise them to continue their conversation in private messaging? After all, they might be completely misunderstanding the other and just having a breakdown in communication, and in the meantime, it's not fair to other people on this board that the topic has strayed so far from the original."

'Besides, in private messaging, you can swear all you like.' Tom added. Everyone paused and gave Tom a long, incredulous stare.

'What? Just sayin'.' He grinned.

"dude you sound like Jestor":whistle:

Sapadu wrote: 'Aw, crap. Guess it was too much to hope the thread would go without a fight, somewhere.' James moaned. Jack nodded in agreement, almost sorrowfully. Though, admittedly, this argument was incredibly tame to some of the outright idiotic flame wars and trolling she'd seen on other internet sites but...

"Still, this is the Temple. I would have thought that the people here, if they have this bad a disagreement, would settle it in private conversation, or talk about it in a more debate form -- where we learn from each other instead of continuing to insist they see it 'our' way..."

'Dude, you sound like Jestor.' Daline commented, sneering. Jack considered this, 'Should we step in and say something?'

'Like, maybe... how did the mother in 'Burn Notice' say it? If you boys can live with that, shake and make up. If you can't, shake and make up, anyway. Because that's what grown ups do.' Kendalina agreed. Jack wanted to point out that that probably wasn't how the quote went, but, at the same time, Kendalina had lit up a death stick and looked in the mood to stick it somewhere unpleasant if someone made her mad.

"How about I just go for the middle route and advise them to continue their conversation in private messaging? After all, they might be completely misunderstanding the other and just having a breakdown in communication, and in the meantime, it's not fair to other people on this board that the topic has strayed so far from the original."

'Besides, in private messaging, you can swear all you like.' Tom added. Everyone paused and gave Tom a long, incredulous stare.

'What? Just sayin'.' He grinned.

Excellent point. This thread shouldn't have dissolved to this. Conflicts should have been taken care of through PM rather than involving the whole thread. I'm a bit disappointed that it happened.

With the limited access i have to the internet through the week I will make this a short response. The title of this thread "God hates Gays" is partially funny toi me in that I ask this. Reguardless of if you believe in God or not I ask you this. First nobody knows what God truely thinks and to make any assumtions as such is silly. The other part is this: Why would it matter what anyone God or human alike thinks? If there is a judgement day will you be judged by what i did or what you did? There in lies the answer if we strive to be the best WE can be and WE show love and tolerance then we are righteous in our actions.

Heh-heh...

Ok, that made me laugh...

Controversey, man, it's a bitch...

You say this, he says that, She says... whatever she says...

You will not stop hurting of feeling, hurting of each other....

It is bound to happen...

What we need to remember, is the civilties of good manners...

I have had people hurt my feelings... in a face to face discussion...

I had my Daughter, call me out as a bad father (just absentee, not anything else...) (long story won't bother you with...)

But, you can't call me that... none of you know me in that way... You can say what you will about my actions here... The things I do share, but till you have walked in my shoes, you aint gonna ruffle my feathers...

What the discussion with my daughter said, had a whole lot of truth, and that is what stung... My side of the issue, well, as always there are circumstances...

False stories are just funny... Who gives a rat's a** what others think and say? I will discuss till I am satisfied with myself, and where I stand...

I am not my words, words define me poorly, but it all we have to communicate similar thoughts and ideas...
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I think I already commented.... But I will again...

God doesn't care... Maybe he did... God saw the first act of homosexuality and said, well that is not going forth and multiplying... Stop it... Or told that first author to write it in that book...

Then, as with humans, and as "we are in his image, and he in ours", possibliy he rethought his stance...

The ability to adapt... Is not this hope we all evolve? If God created us, the set us free, or even has us on a script, then this is according to plan...

So, we evolve, and God's plan going down the free will path, says we all evolve and God is watching , and most likely is evolving and learning with us...

Maybe, the script is wrote... In which case, this is all according to his plan, and he has already evolved to the point where he is cool with it... Otherwise, he woulda put a stop to it, right?

Till he whispers the Truth® (my Dad's favorite way of writing it... lol... little homage pop!), to me, to you, to us all... We just have to just keep guessing....:evil:

i was just reminded of something i heard in a quantum science video i saw in philosophy class...

"for all we know we could be the failed experiment of the dumbest kid in class"

i wish i could remember the name of the video that quote came from...it was a really interesting video.

Of course there is always the dilemma of saying you know the mind of God.

Wouldn't it be blasphemous to consider ourselves on par with God? To see that he is your equal?

Would it not also be blasphemous to say that you understood what he told you? Can you say that you understand the word of God?

Yes he might say something, but we should always doubt whatever he says. The reason being that we cannot say what he truly thinks, because in doing so would be to admit that we understand God. But we cannot understand him because he is infinitely more powerful than us.

To accept something based on blind faith is ignorance. Wouldn't you be a better Christian if you accepted that you could never understand him and so would never be arrogant enough to say what he thinks?

To say 'God hates gays' means that you know for certain what he thinks and so you know the mind of God. But you are not God. And just as I can keep secrets from you, so God can hide what he thinks, for he is all-powerful.

So even if he said it, we would not know what he meant. Indeed we could never know what any of his teachings were. God is beyond comprehension, because if he is not then he has limits. And God has no limits.

I hope no one takes offence at this post. I am merely philosophising here. I am not a Christian nor do I believe in God, but I thought it would be better to write from a Christian perspective purely for ease of writing.