"God Hates Gays"

99.99999999999999% of people are damned to Hell because of an event involving a talking snake. Westboro make themselves useless.

I last looked at the site a while ago. They've gotten rid of the Turing thing since then. They probably got sick of people asking, "You know Turing was a homosexual, right?" :laugh:

On the front page of the http://www.godhatesfags.com site it says:

The only lawful sexual connection is the marriage bed. All other sex activity is whoremongery and adultery, which will damn the soul forever in Hell. Heb. 13:4.

In a 2007 UK documentary by Welsh personality Keith Allen, in which Shirley Phelps-Roper and some of her children agreed to appear, Phelps-Roper is shown admitting on camera that her oldest son was born out of wedlock.

Here is a documentary about the Westboro Baptist Church you can watch in its entirety. Remember this church has less than 100 members.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-most-hated-family-in-america/ (2006)

Here is a recent update (March 2011) by the maker of the documentary. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12919646

me and all my siblings were born out of wedlock as well....at least we'll be warm :laugh:

I just finished watching his new documentary. He goes back about 4 years later and they've had a significant reduction in members. I feel for those children stuck there.

This is not religion but severe mental illness.

I recently saw an interview with one of Phelps' sons. He's gotten out and was concerned that his mother was stuck in the group. I hope she's gotten out.

So, which translation of the Bible do groups like this use? Today I've remembered a Youtube video I saw once.

I hope this is true :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

'Queen James'
One area of the life of King James that for many years remained clouded in controversy was allegations that James was homosexual. As James did father several children by Anne of Denmark, it is actually more accurate to say that he was allegedly a bi-sexual. While his close relationships with a number of men were noted, earlier historians questioned their sexual nature, however, few modern historians cast any doubt on the King's bisexuality and the fact that his sexuality and choice of male partners both as King of Scotland then later in London as King of England were the subject of gossip from the city taverns to the Privy Council. His relationship as a teenager with fellow teenager Esmé Stuart, Earl of Lennox was criticized by Scottish Church leaders, who were part of a conspiracy to keep the young King and the young French courtier apart, as the relationship was improper to say the least. Lennox, facing threats of death, was forced to leave Scotland.

In the 1580s, King James openly kissed Francis Stewart Hepburn, Earl of Bothwell. Contemporary sources clearly hinted their relationship was a sexual one. When James inherited the English throne from Queen Elizabeth I in 1603, it was openly joked of the new English monarch in London that “Elizabeth was King: now James is Queen!” If there is still any doubt, it should be noted that George Villiers, also held an intimate relationship with King James, about which King James himself was quite open. King James called Villiers his “wife” and called himself Villiers' “husband”! King James died in 1625 of gout and senility. He is buried in the Henry VII chapel in Westminster Abbey, with one of his favorite male suitors on his right, and another on his left.

it all makes sense now, the puffy wigs, the capri's, the pantyhose leggings, the garter belts....there must of been alot of queens back then :woohoo:

RyuJin wrote: it all makes sense now, the puffy wigs, the capri's, the pantyhose leggings, the garter belts....there must of been alot of queens back then :woohoo:

You forgot the high-heels

On a serious note, WBC makes me extremely uneasy. I'm not comfortable around ANYONE who tells me they know exactly what our higher power is thinking.

I agree SB. In high school I went to a school that did that (pretty much stated that they knew what God thought). It is something that makes me uncomfortable too. While I state that I feel he believes certain things, I don't state it as the truth or word of God. It is only that, a feeling of that I think he might think. I could be right, I could be wrong.

I generally avoid most religious conversation, especially IRL because of that. I've ran into way too many people that insisted that they knew what God really wanted. And nobody knows that except for God.

Everyone has a right to their own opinions (including the men and women of the cloth) but I don't agree with "God hates gays." My uncle's Boyfriend (yes his bf) is in fact a ordained preacher of a local church where I am told the gay community goes to worship god in a unjudging area. Just because they do things a normal straight man wouldn't do it shouldn't matter, if you don't agree then don't do it but don't ever bash. Bashing on someone only hurts them and we all have feelings which destroys self esteem. This happens in schools across the country where gay children are so upset they commit suicide. In the end what does it accomplish? All it did was basically murder a poor innocent confused child that only wanted to fit in and feel accepted. Most gay men and women CANNOT choice to turn it off because it IS a biological misfire. Now if God made us in his own image then it shouldn't matter if someone is gay or straight we are all equals.

Ok so i am mostly Christian based but I've been learning a lot about Islam of late and due to my state of life I have come across taqwacore or Islamic punk rockers.

The idea of punk abrahamics is still a stride for my head to wrap around but there was a very worth message put out

"our Allah is to big for my Islam to be so small"

It is not a far stretch to replace Allah with God or Jesus and Islam with Christianity.
The old testament is there for us to learn of our god and the world of Jesus to give us better understanding of the depths is his sacrifice. It was not given to beat or break our neighbors.

I would counter act by saying its over 2000+ years old... times change, if people do not look at evolution we are doomed.. we as jedi.. focus on now.. not what was..

Gender is in everything; everything has its Masculine
　　and Feminine Principles; Gender manifests on all
　　planes.”—The Kybalion

I do not practice an Abrahamic Faith. I am a Hermitist.

The great Seventh Hermetic Principle—the Principle of Gender-embodies the truth that there is Gender manifested in everything-that the Masculine and Feminine principles are ever present and active in all phases of phenomena, on each and every plane of life. At this point we think it well to call your attention to the fact that Gender, in its Hermetic sense, and Sex in the ordinarily accepted use of the term, are not the same.

The word “Gender” is derived from the Latin root meaning “to beget; to procreate; to generate; to create; to produce.”

Both the male and female are contained in every organism in ALL of its aspects, from the monad to the universe. Gender is a manifestation of the ALL, and is necessary to creation of everything from the monad to the universe.

Male cannot beget with male, nor female with female. Only through the union of masculine and feminine can any creation be wrought.

This having been said, it is my beleif that god neither loves nor hates gays.

I don't quite understand what your point is. You seem to be saying that only heterosexual union produces offspring (agreed) and that the roots of the word "gender" come from the Latin "genus" (agreed). Of course, you don't mention that more recent versions of the word came to mean "type" as a more generic term but that's beside the point. Other than agreeing with the etymology of the word and the biological reality of procreation, what is your point and what has it got to do with the title of the post?

[/quote]This having been said, it is my beleif that god neither loves nor hates gays.[/quote]

How can you be the one who determines what god loves and does not love. You have much to learn about the creator/creation relationship and much to learn of an open heart.

I wasn't trying to make any point at all. I was only offering my point of view on the matter. I realize that at present it will seem to be incomplete, because in truth it is. This was due to a time constraint. A matter I intend to correct.

I have made no determination of that kind. Belief, and determination are not the same thing. My statement was I believe, not that I determine the truth to be. I merely wanted to offer an alternative point of view, not to spark a debate.

With a Topic title as "God Hates gays" you are bound to get a debate... thanks for the clarifcation though.

This is an oversight on my part. I wished to respond to the original posting of this topic, but I mistakenly selected new topic instead of reply. I wasn't the one who made the original post.