"God Hates Gays"

Are you saying that most people find homosexuals nasty because of their sexual opinions?

When you say opinions do you mean orientation? Do you believe people choose to be gay or straight or bisexual?

Angelus wrote: How do you deal with people that, no matter how right you are, disagree because of blind faith/stupidity/hatred/etc.?

The problem is in your sentence, no offence intended Angelus, Fr. Jon brought it up in his post on why we all strive to show we are right... No one is 'right'

lol... Even my statemets I make in this post, although I feel they are right, they are merely my opinion...

An opinion cannot be wrong, while I in no way agree with any kind of hate, or even rudeness, for I think best manners in dealing with everyone is acceptable...

Even the opinion of the Westboro Baptist... In their opinion, they are right.. Their interpetation of the Bible, is correct, to them...

While the vast majority of the world may disagree, being in the minority in your beliefs, (such as the number of Jedi to the number of Catholics), does not make the minority veiwpoint 'wrong'...

Unfourtunatly, people forget that when they talk, they are expressing an opinion... If every sentence, began, or ended, with 'In my opinion', or 'I think'... we would all have better discussions...

Instead, people state opinion, like fact... "Taco Bell is the best", "Chicago Cubs are going to win it this year", " I look good in a t-shirt two sizes to small", "Jestor rambles and expresses his opinion, like it is the final word in something...".... All of these are opinion, and while we may agree with some (like the one about Jestor the motor mouth!!), others we do not...

br.John wrote: Are you saying that most people find homosexuals nasty because of their sexual opinions?

When you say opinions do you mean orientation? Do you believe people choose to be gay or straight or bisexual?

I don't think (s)he is saying most people, I think, they are saying that the original authors of the bible, tried to say God found homosexuality to be wrong, expressing their opinion, about what they think God would think about it....

The whole line about:

Illrian wrote: "is that God finds homosexuals to be nasty, and indeed to most they are"

Kinda irritated me at first more than the rest, and I worried this would start a sh*tstorm in this thread, but Illrian, is expressing the opinion that still seems to be predominate in the world, although less every day, that there is something wrong with gay people...

This is evident, in the way the world works... For I see and hear bigotry every day, some faction, belittling another... enough to make me wince... so sad...

It is my opinion, that the Statement " God hates gays" Has its basis in lack of solid fact.
Not wanting to totally derail this thread, God Loves!

With all the anger , depression , hatred, war, and strife in the world we have no right telling two people , whoever they are , no matter what race , creed or orientation, that they are wrong for loving someone.

Looking at the Laws in the books of Genesis-Numbers, a lot of them were based, probably unknowing to the people of the time, on hygiene. Look at the food laws and what was prohibited from eating, most of these carried diseases and caused sickness, but with the understanding of proper cooking and cleaning these foods are healthy now. Even Jesus said it's not what goes in the mouth that makes one unclean, but what comes out. Onto the current debate, thinking about the general state of cleanliness and availability of clean water and soap, I don't see the passage "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman. That is detestable." Leviticus 18:22, as a problem with same sexes loving each other, it was simple hygiene. I won't go into details here, because I think we get the picture. Just something to ponder over.

I did have a very angry response to this topic. I have now deleted it.