The American gun Laws.....can it remain as it is?

"I am sharing this story because I am Adam Lanza’s mother. I am Dylan Klebold’s and Eric Harris’s mother. I am James Holmes’s mother. I am Jared Loughner’s mother. I am Seung-Hui Cho’s mother. And these boys—and their mothers—need help. In the wake of another horrific national tragedy, it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness."

http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com/2012/12/thinking-unthinkable.html


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Anarchist Soccer Mom

Butbutbut the CRIMINALS!

Eh. If you completely outlaw guns you can assume anyone holding a gun and not wearing the uniform is in fact member of a foreign invading force. In which case the army can handle them.

Br. John wrote: "I am sharing this story because I am Adam Lanza’s mother. I am Dylan Klebold’s and Eric Harris’s mother. I am James Holmes’s mother. I am Jared Loughner’s mother. I am Seung-Hui Cho’s mother. And these boys—and their mothers—need help. In the wake of another horrific national tragedy, it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness."

http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com/2012/12/thinking-unthinkable.html


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Sounds like a regular case of spoilt little brat. Thinks he has rights because no-one taught him otherwise.

As a parent of a child with a personality disorder I am in a position to say you hau have no idea how wrong you are. You insult people that have challanged children. I shouldn't say this on the WWW but

KISS MY A??! Mods feel free to delete my post and ban me.

I have to work on my tolerance for/of ignorance. Sorry.

I am the parent of a child with a personality disorder, brother of a woman with mental illness and brother in law of a woman with mental illness, neighbour to a young man with a wide variety of mental and psychological issues (thanks smackhead mother). those 4 people got smacked whenever they got out of line.. conclusion? all have a clean police record, none have a history of violence, only one is on meds.

If you guys let your kids act like this no wonder your prisons are numerous and overcrowded. Guns or no guns.

I tend to be a bit skeptical to the current wave of child personality disorders, but do understand physiological factors can of course exist and that we may not have the tech to find them all yet. My concern is children's personalities are not set, they are growing and changing as the brain is apparently very neuroplastic. It's the family and societies responsibility to ensure they grow and develop into stable personalities.

"With functional magnetic resonance, we can now see changes in the brain [in] real time, we can see what part of the brain is active.

So in the brains of kids exposed to things such as stress in utero, deprivation of nutrition, damaging substances from alcohol to drugs, we can see that their brain looks OK, but it's not functioning the way other brains do.

The access to the highest brain, or the emotional system is very stress reactive. The highest brain, called the prefrontal cortex, is the part of the brain where memories are formed, and the part of the brain where judgement analysis and prioritising happens, and it's the part of the brain that's able to analyse and think and reflect before acting.

And the gatekeeper to this, the amygdala, is highly responsive to stress. When a person is stressed their amygdala becomes highly metabolically active, and much less fluid goes into and out of the the higher brain.

So the behaviour then tends much towards the fight, flight, freeze response, which is driven by the lower brain.

So kids who have these experiences over a long period of time frequently have a hyper-responsive gatekeeper, and are very sensitive to stress, and will perceive many things as stressful based on past experiences.

If a child has stressors ongoing in the home or school, then we can see in the brain that high stress reactions translate to insufficient activity in and out of the highest brain.

So if a teacher raises their voice it will set them into a stress response, and even if the voice isn't raised at them, from that point until they are calm, their brains will be inefficient.

So those consequences of living with stress or having a brain that's highly susceptible to stress means that the access in and out of the highest brain is impaired. and that is going to keep making the brain less efficient, it's going to make the child fall further behind."

Perhaps then the amphetamine-like drugs smooth out that over-reaction by the lower brain to stress.

Source

In some cases meditation and/or martial arts help to develop focus and to calm the mind leading to less stressful reactions to low /moderate stress level environments

ren wrote: If you guys let your kids act like this no wonder your prisons are numerous and overcrowded. Guns or no guns.

Our prisons are overcrowded because of our overzealous drug laws. It's big business. Most people in the American prison system are in for NON-violent crimes.

Oh, and knowing 4 people with mental disorders doesn't make you an expert on all mental illnesses. There are some cases where people just aren't right. Not because how they were raised, but because of something else. Of course, I wholeheartedly agree with you on teaching children proper mannners. It can only help, right?:dry:

And I made no such claim. But people need to remove the shit out of their eyes and see what's obvious: all life forms with some kind of memory learn from their mistakes. This includes unruly human children who may or may not suffer from mental illness. In that article br.John posted, not once can I see any attempt at any kind of teaching by the parent.

There are numerous things that could have helped...discipline is but one of them...the thing is that each person is different so what works on one won't work on all....some supposed mental disorders are nothing more than an excuse to push pharmacuticles, or for a lack of discipline

it's difficult to weed out true cases from excuse cases...it doesn't help that discipline is removed from parents and schools...looking at the past, when parents and schools could discipline these sort of events were almost unheard of...

Blaming movies, games, music etc is just stupid excuses for parents that don't want to sit down and explain things to their kids...parents should be involved in EVERY aspect of their child's life, NOT just when it's convenient...