Knights Tenure

Perhaps the title of : past, retired, no longer active, honored, honorary or esteemed titles can be used for inactive but active people of the past?

I like Knight Emeritus, but perhaps that's too honorable for some.

Connor L. wrote: I like Knight Emeritus, but perhaps that's too honorable for some.

That's all fine and dandy, but let's just keep it simple and call it what it is: inactivity. That way we aren't creating false divisions between people we think deserve a gentler title and those who don't.

If a knight returns, and sticks around for a few days, then disappear for a while again, are they active?

Or what if once a month is all a knight can check in, but they heck in once a month religiously?

What is active? What is inactive? How long to hold someone inactive once they returned? How long to hold someone as active once we realize we haven't heard form them?

I'm asking these questions to get your opinions. We, Council, actually had a loooong and exhausting discussion on the topic some time back. And yup, things are the way they are because that was about as fair, honest and good as we could decide to make it.

tzb wrote: Is it? https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/teachers

I do wish this was updated regularly. There are people on there from 2008 that haven't been on since I've been around. And I know there are teachers who haven't put anything up about themselves.

tzb wrote: Is it? https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/teachers

https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/47-Journals/7310-the-teachers-who-we-are?start=40

Yours like takes me to the list of knights, tzb....

Mine takes you to some "about me's"... Idk which was being looked for...

Snowy, it just takes time, lol...

Lots of corners...

Jestor wrote:

tzb wrote: Is it? https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/teachers

https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/47-Journals/7310-the-teachers-who-we-are?start=40

Yours like takes me to the list of knights, tzb....

Mine takes you to some "about me's"... Idk which was being looked for...

Snowy, it just takes time, lol...

Lots of corners...

Btw, the "teacher" and the "knights" links in the footer both go to the same page, can someone fix it?

Wescli Wardest wrote: If a knight returns, and sticks around for a few days, then disappear for a while again, are they active?

Until such time passes that they are put on inactive status, yes.

Or what if once a month is all a knight can check in, but they heck in once a month religiously?

That's still regularly active. They may not have time to do a lot if they only check in once a month, but at least they can be counted on as being respectably easy to contact.

What is active?

Someone who is in regular contact with the Temple, and can be reached easily in case of emergency through communication channels on or offsite. Also, any training master whose apprentices are still currently active and receiving/completing lessons should be considered active, even if they are not otherwise in contact. (In effect, the continuing nature of the apprenticeship in this situation would provide a point of contact.)

What is inactive?

Someone who is not in regular contact with the Temple, or with whom contact cannot easily be established. Also, anyone on a professed Leave of Absence, who has openly left the Temple, or who has revoked their oaths or their claims to rank and title.

How long to hold someone inactive once they returned?

Once they return, upon completion of an "activation activity" to be determined by the Council, they would immediately return to Active status.

How long to hold someone as active once we realize we haven't heard form them?

If a member has been out of contact with TOTJO for a period of three (3) months, an effort should be made to contact the member and ascertain their current membership status. If absence is due to something that cannot be avoided, the member should be placed on a Leave of Absence (discussed below) until such time as they are able to return to their responsibilities. If the member cannot be contacted, or has no desire to return to the Temple or their duties, they should be placed on the Inactive roster.

Persons placed on the Inactive roster are to be held:

• as persons who do not represent TOTJO or her interests in any way,
• as having their clerical license revoked if they are a Licensed Minister*,
• as being "Not In Good Standing" if they are members of the Ordained Clergy*

A Leave of Absence should be considered a special kind of provisional inactivity, taken in situations where an individual member's life has taken away from their ability to function at the proper level of activity in the Temple. Persons on a LoA should be regarded as inactive only in that they are not easily contactable, and should not be required to perform a re-activation task upon return. This will ensure that individuals on a Leave of Absence will not be punished for allowing themselves to take care of their priorities in the proper order; a member on an LoA is effectively "on hold", rather than properly inactive.

* Upon re-activation, Licenses can be re-issued and Ordained clergy can be placed again "In Good Standing"
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Does that help, Wescli?

sounds like alot of back and forth administrative work. I am curious to hear how this Active and/or Inactive juggling would be best handled? Adding, deleting and re-adding stickers or......?

Trisskar wrote: sounds like alot of back and forth administrative work. I am curious to hear how this Active and/or Inactive juggling would be best handled? Adding, deleting and re-adding stickers or......?

We'd start by keeping two lists: one of active members and one of members on a LoA. Everyone not on one of those lists is, by default, inactive.

The Active list could be kept in a publicly visible location. The inactive list would be too long to proactively maintain or post. The LoA list's visibility would be up to the discretion of the Council.

The "administrative work", outside of contacting folks, is putting names on two lists and taking them off again. And, honestly, the contacting is optional because most folks that haven't been here in 3 months are gonna be gone a while. We'll notice them when they come back.

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