The Problem with Black Lives Matter

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6 years 6 months ago - 6 years 6 months ago #286618 by Rosalyn J
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Warning: Spoiler!


Good evening ladies and gentlemen. It seems I need my own learning opportunity, so I would like to start a discussion about a topic affects people like me

Just so we are clear,
I don't agree with the premise of this video
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6 years 6 months ago - 6 years 6 months ago #286624 by JamesSand
How much does a polar bear weigh?


Enough to break the ice!


My experience of this (and other "movements" ) is often probably wildly skewed due to my...relative isolation from them (In terms of geography and culture)

(Having said that, I read a News Corp paper today, and had to go have a lie down it was so full of...rubbish)


ANYWAY, I'm just here to chew popcorn and watch (for now)


(Of all the...unusual stuff he said, one thing that "triggered" me was when he said (words to the effect of) "the recent videos of police brutality are wrong"

...the videos are wrong, or the brutality is wrong?

I just want to be sure...
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6 years 6 months ago - 6 years 6 months ago #286627 by Adder
Movement versus organization.... when a movement hijacks an organization the organization needs to rebrand, else it by association is party to whatever its movement does, so the best it can hope short of rebranding is redefining that association as the movement develops its own form - which is a bit like screaming at a tornado. Did he make a comparison with islamic terrorism :s So I guess Islam has the same problem in this particular regard albeit smaller numbers but more drastic action..Emotional contagion seemingly tends to vector out through the most rewarding participatory action, which might be why sometimes emotional or complex things need to be caged in explanatory verbiage to set a context for the emotion to be addressed as most rationally as possible.... get to know the horse before jumping on its back sorta thing.
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6 years 6 months ago - 6 years 6 months ago #286629 by JamesSand

get to know the horse before jumping on its back sorta thing.


I don't know much about horses, but I love Bandwagons!

#GettingInvolved
#IWantToBeAPartOfSomething
#ThisIsCloseEnoughSoImIn
#BringBackCherryCoke

(Sigh) Setting aside whatever the FACTS are - The video raises a (reasonably) valid point - the White Devil (me, the guy in the video, whoever - Do you reckon he needs those glasses or are they a fashion piece?) can feel alienated and "blamed" by this that and the other organisation / movement.

And then when THAT is raised, be accused of trying to make the true victims invisible, or co-opt the movement, or be a part of the problem...or something.

So (The White Devil) comes up with something like #NotAllMen, which, as recent history has shown us, mostly backfires and creates more rage and separation between whatever involved parties, including those that are (with varying levels of success) trying to be "allies"

I'm not necessarily agreeing with the message of the video itself, but that he felt he needed to make the video at all, and most likely quite a few people agree, means there is something there.

Or hell, maybe privileged white devil boy just didn't like not being the spotlight of fame for four and a half seconds, so he made a video to bring more attention back to himself and his voice, which he finds more "valid" than any other voice in the discussion.

Hard to say really.
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6 years 6 months ago - 6 years 6 months ago #286631 by Tarran

Rosalyn J wrote: Just so we are clear,
I don't agree with the premise of this video


I hope you don't mind my asking, Rosalyn (please forgive me, if so... but I really must ask), but I sincerely need a wee bit of clarity on this...

#1, When you say "premise", are you speaking of the message that there is something gone awry with the movement/organization (either/both), or... ?

#2, When you say that you "don't agree", am I to take that as "I decidedly disagree", or "I wait to make my own judgment until I can understand this through others' eyes" (which/else)?

I'd really like to know/understand *your* ideas, and feelings, on this... even if they are yet not quite *set* at the moment.

Have courage, of course - remember that you are among family <3

- Tarran ^_^

P.S.~

JamesSand wrote: #BringBackCherryCoke


PFPFTHTHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!! SO MUCH YES!! LOL
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6 years 6 months ago - 6 years 6 months ago #286632 by Tarran
Duplicate post (wtf, again? I must've goofed somehow) - nothing to see here! lol
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