A question of The Force.

forceuser wrote: I am interested in talking with other people who have experienced using the force in different ways I have personally used all the different Ways just like in the movies of the Jedi and also some ways that are not showing in the movies
if you can use the force or 100% believe I am looking for others to learn and share with you can reach me at. Necfredgifford@gmail.com

Like in the movies? Pushing and pulling things, lifting things, mind tricking, choking, and casting lightning at people? I know of no one that can do such things. Would be nice, but a bit separated from reality.

Doesn't mean you can't use it, though. I'm always using it. To breathe, to see, to hear, to feel, to walk, to laugh, to dance, to care, to love, and to think.

How? The same way anyone else does, I just see it differently, as all interconnected through the Force. My laughter is because I was once broken, my tears because I was once happy. Like ripples on a pond, made by a small stone thrown into it.

So how does what is happening to me be me using the Force? I use it, these experiences, to better understand myself and grow from it, to become a better instrument for the Force (being, imo, the energy of all living things) and to become better at being of service to said Force.

Theoretically, techniques in the movie could be possible.. why do we act like that's taboo?

Uzima Moto wrote: Theoretically, techniques in the movie could be possible.. why do we act like that's taboo?

Theoretically? Anything can be theoretical. I, theoretically, could metamorphis into a dragon after I die. The difference is what is real and what is not and learning to focus on what is, the present moment and the concequences of actions in that moment that should drive us rather than wondering if mildly amusing abilities would be beneficial to a Jedi training.

As said by Luke, 'the Force does not belong to the Jedi', and as such the Jedi can exist without using this Force. If anything, the Jedi belong to the Force,
being part of it even if unknowingly and/or unwillingly (as all living things are). We don't need to learn to move things with our minds because we can move hearts and minds with well placed words, deeds, and by being the example.

Techniques are developed. While many things could be done theoretically; it would be prudent to see if it can be done with science.
On the other hands, these are matters of faith.

Arisaig wrote:

Uzima Moto wrote: Theoretically, techniques in the movie could be possible.. why do we act like that's taboo?

Theoretically? Anything can be theoretical. I, theoretically, could metamorphis into a dragon after I die. The difference is what is real and what is not and learning to focus on what is, the present moment and the concequences of actions in that moment that should drive us rather than wondering if mildly amusing abilities would be beneficial to a Jedi training.

As said by Luke, 'the Force does not belong to the Jedi', and as such the Jedi can exist without using this Force. If anything, the Jedi belong to the Force,
being part of it even if unknowingly and/or unwillingly (as all living things are). We don't need to learn to move things with our minds because we can move hearts and minds with well placed words, deeds, and by being the example.

You would have little to back up that theory lol..
What I'm talking about is a real scientific approach to the way The Force works..

Theoretically, someone could use their aura to gather an electrical charge and cast it out. Since it can affect electromagnetic energy. It's not too far of a stretch. I think Energy Work and Social Work go hand in hand for us.. I wouldn't think that they're separate paths but part of the same walk..

Uzima Moto wrote: You would have little to back up that theory lol..
What I'm talking about is a real scientific approach to the way The Force works..

Theoretically, someone could use their aura to gather an electrical charge and cast it out. Since it can affect electromagnetic energy. It's not too far of a stretch. I think Energy Work and Social Work go hand in hand for us.. I wouldn't think that they're separate paths but part of the same walk..

The problem with your "theory" is that you cant approach something scientifically when you are trying to work with a "force" that science has never been able to detect. Step one in this would to actually provide scientific evidence of its existence before one can go about harnessing it.

Agreed, though thought experiments would be able to provide a basis for a theory; this is besides the point.
Human evolution has gotten us some pretty cool stuff. Eventually we may be able to have powers, this is not what we teach here, telekinesis is not a mandatory skill.

The closest I would think we could get is clarity of mind. Enhancements to our own perception through training, meditation and thoughtful discourse. There is plenty of scientific research to assist with that.

NO one can force you to believe a certain way, if you are determined to work on this, no one can stop your quest there. However, the basics, the underlying theory of abrahamic Jediism should be mastered first before setting such a goal.

Just my 2 cents.

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote:

Uzima Moto wrote: You would have little to back up that theory lol..
What I'm talking about is a real scientific approach to the way The Force works..

Theoretically, someone could use their aura to gather an electrical charge and cast it out. Since it can affect electromagnetic energy. It's not too far of a stretch. I think Energy Work and Social Work go hand in hand for us.. I wouldn't think that they're separate paths but part of the same walk..

The problem with your "theory" is that you cant approach something scientifically when you are trying to work with a "force" that science has never been able to detect. Step one in this would to actually provide scientific evidence of its existence before one can go about harnessing it.

They've been trying to study it scientifically for decades. More specifically, studying "auras" and their effects on people and the general world around them. There's been some marginal success. Most notably is the work done with some monks in the recent past.

Wait, are you telling me that in a community dedicated to the study of the mysteries of Life and "The Force". You guys aren't already informed about this type of stuff?

Why are folks trying to be jedi? People could be helpful and philosophical types without claiming to be "Force Users/Adherents"

Uzima Moto wrote: They've been trying to study it scientifically for decades. More specifically, studying "auras" and their effects on people and the general world around them. There's been some marginal success. Most notably is the work done with some monks in the recent past.

Wait, are you telling me that in a community dedicated to the study of the mysteries of Life and "The Force". You guys aren't already informed about this type of stuff?

Why are folks trying to be jedi? People could be helpful and philosophical types without claiming to be "Force Users/Adherents"

Who are 'They'?

We do study the Force, the energy that binds all things, connects them, et cetera, yadda yadda... But many of us focus on what the Jedi did, rather than the power they would wield by bending the Force to their will. They were teachers, students, warriors, friends, servants, and family to all. Once can be an excellent Jedi without being able to lift rocks with their mind. In fact, the best Jedi were those that had that type of awesome power but didn't use it, instead relying on their own power, their ability, to bring peace to the world wherever they went. To fight against injustice, to help up the fallen, to shield the defenceless, and speak for the silent... all this, in many of our eyes (if not almost all) is more important than a metaphysical superpower. Because, when applied excellently, this type of lifestyle can change the world around you.

I have a strong leaning to Abrahamic practice. There's a certain practicality to it. The dietary laws are actually healthy. There are hygiene codes. And the 10 commandments are designed for how we treat others and "God".. but most religions of the time come from a somewhat observant study of Nature..

Now, in modern days, the days of Marxism and Mercantilism, our religions are products of fantastical thought and science is nearly devoid of spiritual life..