This vs That.

I just finished reading Jestor's sermon,"Jediism Vs Christianity," and could not help but laugh. I was not laughing at his sermon but at the idea of comparing one faith with another.

Let me explain.
What is Christian, or should I say which one of these is Christian?

Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, Episcopalian, Pentecostal?
What about the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses?
Each of these groups consider only themselves to be the CORRECT religion and everything else is either simply just wrong or a form of satanism. I know this for a fact for the Baptist, Catholic, Pentecostal, Mormon, and Jehovah's Witnesses for I personally have been in each group for more than year each.

Then we got the Nature religions.
Paganism, Neo-Paganism, Wicca, etc. These are a bit more open minded but also are closed. They are closed in the idea of the LORD/LADY idea.

Then you have the Eastern Religions.
Buddhism, Hinduism, etc. These are also more open minded but the traditions that have built up around them are very closed minded.

They you have some new religions.
Jediism for one, and FSM.
Jediism being one that draws from many the principles of each, and then FSM which was created as nothing but a joke at the idea of their being a god.

SO WHAT IS TRUTH? How can you know what truth is?

Truth is simple. You are truth, and no I am not talking about your body which is nothing but a vehicle for the REAL YOU. The REAL YOU is truth.

When you understand the REAL YOU, then you will be able to understand THE REAL GOD, or when you understand the REAL GOD you will understand the REAL YOU. Either way, I am telling you without a doubt that there is a GOD.

Now do not ask me to tell you what god is, or to define god; for that is impossible. Do not ask me where god came from, or to prove god exists. I shall not do so. The knowledge of knowing that there is a god comes from god through faith. You don't have it, that is fine; your simply not ready for that level of existence yet. I will not tell you your wrong. Because for those that do not believe that there is a god, there is not. They are right. But for those that believe that there is a god, there is. They are also right.

In the end, at the end, whatever; what you believe in is what you get. You believe in life after death, well then you will have life after death, if you do not believe in life after death, well then you will not have life after death. We create our own realities. We do not see out there, seeing is done within yor mind.

Where is mind? It is the same where that the REAL YOU and the REAL GOD is. Those who have seen it, have not seen it with eyes, those who have felt it, have not felt it with hands, those who have heard the sound, have not heard the sound with ears.

Most won't know what the ^&*( I am talking about. But I hope maybe that there is 1 or 2 that do. Maybe I am expecting to much.

But regardless, trying to compare Jediism to Christianity is like trying to compare a rock to an orange. There is no comparison.

But that is my opinions.

for one thing, you say it's your opinion

but you establish that a God exists and say to those who don't believe that they are what? ignorant?

another, Jestor's comparison was looking beyond that, and how we have a personification that exists for some people ( God being the Force)


now I believe in God, but you can't establish a fact under such a bold statement then flee to the protection of "your opinion"

and you never actually gave a real reason as to why you can't compare two faiths.
You just made a point about truth and what truth really is.

Hi Scott!

Thanks for reading....

You are quite correct, I think, comparing one religion to another is silly, like comparing a rock to an orange....

But, as I alluded to, but was not clear about, you have to compare the "unknown" to the "known"...

I used Christianity because everyone has some idea of what the is...

Really, even Jediism is individualistic, so a definite definition will never be found...

I am ex-catholic, I know your points...

Comparing things to one another, such as object "A" to a rock is easy...

Is it hard? Feel like gravel? Feel dense? Taste gritty and earthy? What is its shape?

BY certain comparisons, a belief will be excluded from being a rock faster than an orange will for an idea has no physical measurements... lol...

So, I get your point, and explain yet further my thinking...

@ Suliskvetba, its all my belief and opinion, and for you, it is all your belief and opinion...

Saying so doesn't exclude conversation, it merely says, "this is my definition"...

Some of us say it to begin conversation, others to tell others how they are wrong... Yet conversations ensue...

Fascinating to me...

It is a fascinating topic and I believe that you are right that religions cannot be compared. "Oranges and rocks" I like it. Having also been raised within the catholic faith I understand the need to believe in or personify "god", and I am certainly not without a faith that there is something greater than us all out there, but I cannot bring myself to belief in a single definable personality. My biggest issue with Christianity has alway been the "made in the image of" but not part of god, removed from God thing.I believe that our understanding of "God" as an individual deity that we are subordinate to, removes our own divine origin.

Are we as complex, physical, thinking, feeling, spiritual creatures not a part of the "divine" ourselves. If we are made in the image of a Creator, then surely we are creators. There cannot (in my opinion) be "a God" if we are part of God or made in the image of God.

What about a rounded-orange quartz rock and a regular orange? Would that make the comparison a little better?

What you can pretty much compare all religions on is their beliefs in a myth that makes them feel good. Nothing wrong with that I might add (except when their myth motivates them to harm others).

And I won't say there isn't a god. I just say that if there is a god out there he/she/it is doing a poor job at being god. But that's for other theists to worry about. I don't worry about the poor job god is doing...

...I'm too busy enjoying the Now.

That better illustrates what I meant, thanks LTK...

Lets put all the religions in a hat...

So, now that the fact that a coffee cup is not a religion will remove it from the hat... Just as a toilet seat is now removed...

And we did this by comparison... lol...

But, yet all the religions in the hat are beliefs, right? Ok, they all stay...

So, now how to compare...:dry:

How about those with only one 'figurehead', one enity, get to stay...

Thus,m by comparison, we get to know things...

Wow, Scott. It's been a long time since I read a post here that I completely agree with. Well said, my friend

This, that, all the other things and everything else... Take your pick and bee happy.

From my experience, there is a type of being, that if you follow your path you come too. Peace. Happiness. A clarity of vision that is telling. I've witnessed it in people of all of these religions. Sometimes I think religion is just a hand rail on the path of life. In that respect, they are very similar, even Jediism.

rugadd wrote: From my experience, there is a type of being, that if you follow your path you come too. Peace. Happiness. A clarity of vision that is telling. I've witnessed it in people of all of these religions. Sometimes I think religion is just a hand rail on the path of life. In that respect, they are very similar, even Jediism.

I like that, very true.

for most religions, they are the greatest friend

they welcome you into this world with a celebration

then they depart you peacefully with your name in their heart