Another reason to support the right to arms...?

My opinion - take it for what it is worth.

I witnessed the after math of a young woman who was held down; her head shaved; and then they used a saw (like you cut wood with) to remove her arms and legs... She was then packed in ice and mailed to her mother.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. This was in a first world country by the way.

UraharaKiskue wrote:

That said I'm shocked and appalled that the first response was to use this as a political ploy when my first response was "Oh MY GOD THAT POOR LITTLE GIRL!!!"

As Jedi don't you think it would be better of us to debate Gun Control in a different thread and perhaps have a bit of mourning and reservation for a life lost?

Lol., you have lost me there. You speak like the girl is dead. Well she is not. I suggest you look at the original story again. Your emotions seem to be getting the better of you. Some people like to separate religion from politics, but what bearing does social awareness have if you are going to separate it from the tragedies or joys or reality of life? For the sake of Jediism I hope its practitioners do not base their lives just on pure hypothetical speculation or opinion.

My apologies for misreading the story. That said I'm back to bowing out as the original intent remains mostly unchanged.

totjo: now the heart of political ploys.

Hey!

When the first politician stands up, and proclaims he is a Jedi, (and means it), maybe things will change (No offence to the Sith...)

Welcome to the UK, the country where it has already happened....

ren wrote: Welcome to the UK, the country where it has already happened....

Oh really? Which politician(s) there? I hadn't heard that...

Jamie Reed, MP for copeland.

from wiki...

Jamie Reed

In his maiden speech, he declared himself to be a Jedi in the debate over "Racial and Religious Hatred Bill" under consideration in Parliament. His comment was intended to be taken ironically and raise the issue of how the Bill would define what was and wasn't a religion

Ren's comments taste a little better with a little salt on them!

This is a topic that I feel strongly about, so I will try to be as calm and rational as possible.

I am a firm supporter of the right to bear arms. Here in the USA, many gun rights advocates feel that they need to justify themselves to those who advocate further gun restrictions, or total prohibition. They bring up romantic images of the American revolutionary taking his musket against the crown, and while I am quite proud of what my ancestors did in 1776, that has nothing to do with it.

I firmly believe that government does not have the right to restrict my right to self-preservation, or to simply own what I want. If that's not enough for you, let's see how gun control has worked for other countries.

Let's contrast New Zealand and Australia. Each nation had a historic, horrific mass shooting in the 90's, Aramoana and Port Arthur, respectively. Australia behaved in a rather British manner and did a massive "reform" of its gun laws, confiscating (stealing) Australians' guns for destruction. New Zealand had a very minor reform, which didn't prohibit anything, but rather reclassified certain weapons in respect to the license necessary to obtain them. New Zealand to this day has some of the most permissive gun legislation in the world, and Australia among the most restrictive. New Zealand has very, very low crime in general, let alone crimes involving guns.

Let's have a look at the UK. I don't think I need to explain how restrictive, tyrannical, and bad UK gun laws are, but there's one thing people don't realize: in Northern Ireland, the laws are entirely different than in Britain itself, and are also far more permissive than laws within the Republic of Ireland, which itself is approaching a UK level of ridiculousness in regards to gun laws. Funny thing is, even though it's known for being the location of a horrible ethno-religious conflict, Northern Ireland nonetheless has a lower crime and murder rate than Britain.

Now, let's look at the Germanic world. In ascending order in regards to gun law strictness: Switzerland, Austria, and Germany. In ascending order in regards to gun crime: Switzerland, Austria, and Germany.

See anything here? The Czech Republic has some of the most lax gun laws in the world, and Prague is safer than London, or Edinburgh, or Dublin, or New York. While one could argue that legal, responsible civilian gun ownership actually DECREASES crime, I'll save that argument for another day and just be satisfied with having proven that gun control is a useless, futile, stupid, and tyrannical measure.