marijuana

Planet of Chaos wrote:
That people are in prison right now because of cannabis makes this a moral issue! An issue of rights that can be solved very easily. The framework is in place for a solution! Is it wrong for a Jedi to speak their opinion against injustice? Or is it beneath us because the injustice is against those with apparent vices (stoners)?

The injustice of the US criminal system - which are myriad - is something that can be talked about directly, rather than via pot use. I don't think stoners are criminals, and I think it's ridiculous that we demand our police/courts etc waste time on them.

Tenrec wrote:

Planet of Chaos wrote:
That people are in prison right now because of cannabis makes this a moral issue! An issue of rights that can be solved very easily. The framework is in place for a solution! Is it wrong for a Jedi to speak their opinion against injustice? Or is it beneath us because the injustice is against those with apparent vices (stoners)?

The injustice of the US criminal system - which are myriad - is something that can be talked about directly, rather than via pot use. I don't think stoners are criminals, and I think it's ridiculous that we demand our police/courts etc waste time on them.

I agree about a myriad of injustice, but what good is it to focus on ALL of the injustice if ALL of the injustice cannot be solved by focusing on it. Seems a little overwhelming! Seems a little manic depressive to me!
Almost everybody knows somebody that's been arrested for simple cannabis possession.. Yet, I live in a place where that is a misdemeanor at worst. We've been able to move passed the stigma. Now, we're tackling large budget issues and getting to a point where California might soon live within its means. Is this because of cannabis.. not entirely.. but medicinal cannabis has taken state resources away from cannabis use and on to more productive things. It's given us jobs in a tough economy. It also plays a very big role in the overall stress management of my lovable, but overcrowded Los Angeles. When you can get passed a large ideological problem like Cannabis use.. It opens to door to much better things.

Wescli Wardest wrote: I do not understand the amount of attention this topic has gotten. I would think that as Jedi there would be more important things to discuss then rather or not people should have the right to get high.

For example: (as of 12-19-11 @ 18:27 cst)
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4. Monogamy (36 replies, 6629 views, 3months)

It may not be true, but if I was visiting and looking around, it would appear that we care more about smoking pot than anything else. And for that reason I am ashamed to post here again.

I know why.

I'm answering a particular question of why but the rest is a general post for everyone. Remember those reads are a total from the general public reads, search engine crawls and logged in user reads. There is much interest in this search term "marijuana" because ....

This is a grave human rights issue with severe social justice consequences that harms ten's of millions of people just in the United States. When a father goes to jail for a marijuana crime his family and children are harmed. When a young person is arrested just for possessing a joint she looses school funding and has a criminal record that will keep her from getting employment. Think of the people being killed in Mexico all because marijuana is not taxed and regulated like wine. Jedi are defenders of Peace and Justice. This is a horrific injustice.

The US has a bit less than 5% of the worlds population but 25% of all the persons in the world locked up in jail are in The US. A significant part of this prison population is solely due to marijuana law violations.

I'm not even going into what a blessing it would be for our environment if we were actively using hemp (the non-medical variety of cannabis). You'll read about that in the links below.

Why should you care as a Jedi, a guardian of Peace and Justice? Did I mention Justice? Why should you care as a Christian, Buddhist, Pagan, Atheist or whatever? Why should you care as a plain ordinary good person?

Gentle Readers, I bet there's some things here in these links you do not know. This is very interesting and well worth reading. If you breath the air or use gasoline in your car or pay an electricity bill you'll want to know what you're being denied. And don't forget our Earth. It's the only one we've got.

The legalization of marijuana, it's true, is a libertarian issue. The fundamental principle is the sheer absurdity of the government telling me what I can and can't put into my own body, or trying to adjudicate what is best for my health or personal well-being. I am arguing, yes, for the right to get high. But thanks to the incredible vagaries of the drug war, legalization of marijuana is so much more. It is absolutely, undoubtedly an issue of human rights.

See why here: http://lhote.blogspot.com/2011/03/marijuana-legalization-is-human-rights.html


And don't miss:

http://www.democracydefined.org/1report.htm

http://www.democracydefined.org/clinicalfindings.htm

http://youtu.be/gZTceWVtERo (I don't know why I can't get this to embed. If any admin can fix that please do.)

Not to resurrect a very old topic, I thought it better than starting a new thread on the topic.

Tomorrow, 12/6/2012, in Washington State, marijuana becomes "legal". Why quotes?

1. It is only legal if you buy it from a state run/licensed store
2. Said stores have a year from tomorrow to open (so it cannot be legally bought tomorrow)
3. It is not legal to grow your own
4. It is not legal to smoke in public

However, it is at least the start of the conversation. I also think it is a pretty big deal that two states legalized it this year. Amazing.

cam1565 wrote: are we aloud to smoke/ingest marijuana?

Get serious man. It has no place for one attempting to clear the mind.

If your looking for someone to say go a-head so you feel justified in taking a hit I think you should talk to a different group that will tell you want you want to hear. Put some ice in your bong, take a drag, kick back, relax, enjoy your buzz but don't think you are tuning into the force.

Have you met many people that have been smoking weed daily for decades? They don't call it getting stupid for nothing.

TOTJO has no official stance on marijuana...

I personally am a advocate of it, although I have not smoked it in many years...

I personally find it less dangerous than legal drugs...

Arguments, and statistics can be found all over...

Ultimately, you must decide for yourself what is right and wrong...

We are not people's babysitters, or parents...

Like all things, it does have the potential for abuse, so, if one decided to partake, then moderation would be the keyword, in my opinion...

8 Visions for the Future of Legal Pot

Published on Alternet (http://www.alternet.org) / By Martin A. Lee

December 1, 2012 |

Pot-smokers of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your pipe dreams.

Marijuana legalization is a beginning, not an end.

When residents of Colorado and Washington voted to legalize the adult use of cannabis, it felt like a momentary rush of sobriety in a country dazed by decades of anti-marijuana hysteria. But what comes next?

http://www.alternet.org/8-visions-future-legal-pot?paging=off


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I'm actually about to go and pick up a gram

Rickie wrote:

cam1565 wrote: are we aloud to smoke/ingest marijuana?

Get serious man. It has no place for one attempting to clear the mind.

If your looking for someone to say go a-head so you feel justified in taking a hit I think you should talk to a different group that will tell you want you want to hear. Put some ice in your bong, take a drag, kick back, relax, enjoy your buzz but don't think you are tuning into the force.

Have you met many people that have been smoking weed daily for decades? They don't call it getting stupid for nothing.

I think those "stupid" people were probably doing other things in addition to pot. Smoking pot daily for decades does not make you stupid. You know, tabacco gets people high too.

FYI, I don't smoke pot. Don't plan to, but I do know many people who have been smoking for decades and they are actually really smart.

I think those "stupid" people were probably doing other things in addition to pot. Smoking pot daily for decades does not make you stupid. You know, tabacco gets people high too.

FYI, I don't smoke pot. Don't plan to, but I do know many people who have been smoking for decades and they are actually really smart.

You don't know the people I do to say those things about them.

We are not talking about tabacco.

Smart people still get dumb when high on pot.

I still stand on the statment that pot doesn't help one clear the mind, and body, and helps one get intuned with the force. You may feel like you are, you may feel great, but the high is an illusion and out of touch with reality as is an "mind altering substance".

This is a joke.....Put that in your pipe and smoke it! :laugh: