Opinions on Brexit?

To be honest, the EU is becoming less of a european union and more of a european nation or state in my opinion. One currency, one court, one market, an anthem and there's been talk of a EU army now as well (Not sure if that's already established, i'm not very updated ). I don't like where it's going, and of course, there is no knowing for sure what the future of the EU will be, i'm basically on the fence in this topic. But i guess i am leaning more towards the no EU approach..

This is going on today- I'm waiting with baited breath to see what the decision is.

Akkarin Edit: merged this so there's no duplicate thread.

Bareus wrote: To be honest, the EU is becoming less of a european union and more of a european nation in my opinion. One currency, one court, and there's been talk of a EU army now as well. I don't like where it's going, and of course, there is no knowing for sure what the future of the EU will be, i'm basically on the fence in this topic.

Britain uses the pound and Cameron secured an exemption from ever-closer union.

Germany's highest court chose not to recognise the authority of the European Court of Justice and is therefore not bound by its rulings. The UK was supposed to have a similar exemption, but it turned out our exemption didn't have the legal guarantees it was meant to. Our Supreme Court is already looking at changing the law to follow Germany's example and make British courts supercede the ECJ.

Britain has a veto on the creation of a European army. If we left and Germany (which wants an EU army) said "Let's create one, anyone in the room against this idea?" *look at the empty British chair* "Oh, I guess no one can veto it, let's go ahead and create one." - that's why British influence at the EU negotiating table is so important.

Lots of people dislike where the EU is going. British disillusionment with the EU isn't unique to Britain, Euroskepticism it's being felt right across Europe.

lol, looks like there's already a topic! !

This is a day that the Netherlands have your election running live on the telly loll, cuzzz if you vote OUT , we will aswell demand a referendum ...again. The last referendum was cast aside by our Government , that made for a lot of angry blood ...not listening to your people will devide more than bind

Akkarin wrote:

Brick wrote: Well, this is it. Decision Day and I still have no clue which way I'm voting :blush:

I'm a little bit scared about either outcome...

We can always choose to leave again at some point again in the future, if you're unsure it seems better to leave your options open

Yes, this - the only bad course of action is failing to represent your opinion by not voting.

If we leave, we'd need 27 countries to admit us back in, and be far less of a powerhouse in the EU than we are now.

If we remain, we can face this decision again when we're more clear on what would happen if we did.

The undecided vote is a vote to remain, as in, "there's not been a strong enough argument to convince me to leave".

I will be voting out because I believe it is easier to make a smaller group of people happy and to look after a smaller group of people better.

The EU is indeed a powerhouse economy wise but that doesn't really filter down to the majority of people, it benefits the business elite and stops there, because they decide how to treat their employees while they can take all the economic benefit for themselves.

On another note, it is much easier to control corruption and have direct democracy in a smaller society Cx

(I love all peoples of all cultures, just because I see reasons to vote out does not mean hatred of other peoples is one of them!)

Strider wrote:
(I love all peoples of all cultures, just because I see reasons to vote out does not mean hatred of other peoples is one of them!)

^ I find it ridiculous that the OUT voters have to apologize , there are good reasons for staying an good reasons for leaving , assuming that one does not like foreigners ore other cultures is appaling and i consider it bullying.

I do to Marta

I have been verbally attacked in public and at college by what I would call left wing extremists, honestly alot of the time I feel physically attacked

It feels extra strange considering I believe in Social Democracy and yet they attack me and call me a nazi, fascist or racist and the list goes on xD

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Anyway lets not derail the conversation for the undecideds this is about them

My honest opinion is that if you don't know by now which way to vote, please don't vote.

It's rare that I'd tell anyone not to vote, but if you really don't know which way to vote then your vote is not only a wasted one, but it will influence the outcome of the votes of those who have decided.