Catholics Believe Liquid From 'Miracle' Tree is God's Tears -- Arborist Says It's Lice Excrement

how to you differentiate unescapable influences and "shoving down one's throat" ?

I’m sure people understand that is merely a point of perception and to debate it would be ultimately futile as we all have different ideas of what “too much” anything would be.

I'm still trying to figure out how people thinking bug butt juice is a miracle of the Creator (which is technically true if said Creator exists) is going to cause war and chaos.

Wescli Wardest wrote: I’m sure people understand that is merely a point of perception and to debate it would be ultimately futile as we all have different ideas of what “too much” anything would be.

That's why I'm trying to talk about here. How do you define "too much", and why do you define it as "too much"?

steamboat28 wrote: I'm still trying to figure out how people thinking bug butt juice is a miracle of the Creator (which is technically true if said Creator exists) is going to cause war and chaos.

Don't ask me, ask the guys who cause war and chaos over petty religious crap. Just look at the history of religion in england. One guy is sick of tired of his wife -> centuries of religious wars.

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Why do so many people find it so important to discredit another person’s spiritual experience? If I have an experience and it strengthens my spiritual well being, what harm is it causing someone else? -- Jim Jones, People's Temple.

I'm not following you on this one? This was a mass murder/suicide?

Too much is anything in excess. For each person that will be different. And depending on your overall mood at that moment, things that were okay yesterday may be too much today. It’s completely subjective.

So are we really going to debate over a common ground for a subjective concept so that it can cover a myriad of topics? That just doesn’t sound like a lot of fun to me.

I will say that we shouldn’t make decisions based on spur of the moment, knee jerk reactions. Before one decides a course of action, they should be centered and not emotional.

Wescli Wardest wrote: Too much is anything in excess. For each person that will be different. And depending on your overall mood at that moment, things that were okay yesterday may be too much today. It’s completely subjective.

So are we really going to debate over a common ground for a subjective concept so that it can cover a myriad of topics? That just doesn’t sound like a lot of fun to me.

I will say that we shouldn’t make decisions based on spur of the moment, knee jerk reactions. Before one decides a course of action, they should be centered and not emotional.

You don't understand my question.

By which process do YOU define "too much", and how can you know that you, and only you, have control over this process?

I understand your question, I just don’t see there being a relevant answer. What I find to be in excess is ultimately irrelevant in the grand scheme of things as I am just one. I also believe that control, complete control, is an illusion. A construct of our society used to keep people in line by limiting their possibilities. So, little point in debating it. But I will play along.

I define “too much” as being the point in where I no longer want to deal with something.

Driving past a church, no worries. Seeing people on the streets telling me that God save, annoying but they are welcome to it. Having someone yelling at me that I’m going to burn in Hell because I don’t donate at their church, very annoying and excessive. It also depends on the mood I’m in that day.

But, long story short… when someone decides to “force” their beliefs on you or convince you that theirs is the only right way; that is too much.

I think the answer is very relevant.

Also, I find that the smallest acts are more powerful than big ones in the grand scheme of things.