Alpha male syndrome.

Nice... Im on the PC and my clap gif is on my phone, but, know I am clapping at your last post Wes...

Then I thought, “Who gives out the most charity?”

Where is Russia, China and the Middle East on this map.

That says a lot.

The US gives charity? My experience in dealing with the US is that they give the money to corporations and give their rich buddies kids scholarships. How much does the CEO of Red Cross make? Ever try to get any of those charities to actually DO anything? They're all fronts. I've called and/or written to many of them and they all do the same thing... they have some "token" person they help with like 1% of their donations and the rest goes into their salaries and corporate garbage.

The real charities that actually do something never get any money from the gov't. That's just how it is.

Wha-a-a-a-a-a-a-t!?!?!??!?!





I’ve seen them in action and I have worked with them to help those in need before… I’m sorry your experience with different charity groups has been lacking.

The CEO of anything making money? That can’t be right! I thought everyone worked for free!

I’m still in shock over what you just wrote… I have seen the aid with my own eyes. I helped with my own two hands. I’ve distributed care packages and… you know what… nothing I’m going to say is going to make a difference.

We are each entitled to our own opinions.

A lot of these donations are rich entertainers, sports players, or old money children trying to make a difference and other rich people donating to causes that affect them personally, like cancer research or clinics in their home countries. Perhaps corporations are bottom line make it look gooders, but individuals deviate from that considerably.

Hmmm, for non profits the ceo does NOT get paid....ask br.john and the other totjo officers....I've read the laws and requirements for non profits...if someone gets paid its because they are working for the non profit...non profits have operating costs, there's no denying that they have rent, and employee costs...but the board, the officers....they don't get paid....at least not legally

I have been on both the giving and receiving end of charity groups and found that at the local/lower level they couldn't be more helpful or concerned...it's always possible that at the higher levels things are different...such is human nature when large amounts of money are involved...these INDIVIDUALS do not represent the ENTIRETY...

The American National Red Cross is registered as a 501 non-profit organization.
Contributions to the American National Red Cross are tax-deductible to the extent
permitted by law. The Red Cross' tax identification number is 53-0196605.


Salary of the CEO of the American Red Cross

http://www.redcross.org/news/press-release/Red-Cross-Statement-on-Inaccurate-Viral-Email-on-Charity-CEO-Pay

A nonprofit organization , or not-for-profit organization , often called an NPO or simply a nonprofit and non-commercial organization , often called an NCO, is an organization that uses surplus revenues to achieve its goals rather than distributing them as profit or dividends. States in the United States defer to the IRS designation conferred under United States Internal Revenue Code Section 501, when the IRS deems an organization eligible.

While not-for-profit organizations are permitted to generate surplus revenues, they must be retained by the organization for its self-preservation, expansion, or plans. NPOs have controlling members or boards. Many have paid staff including management, while others employ unpaid volunteers and even executives who work with or without compensation (occasionally nominal). Where there is a token fee, in general, it is used to meet legal requirements for establishing a contract between the executive and the organization.

Designation as a nonprofit and an intent to make money are not related in the United States. This means nothing can be inferred by the declaration. It is unclear whether or not this holds outside of the U.S. In the United States, such inference is the purpose of the Internal Revenue Code, Section 501. The extent to which an NPO can generate surplus revenues may be constrained or use of surplus revenues may be restricted.

The passage of the American Competitiveness and Corporate Accountability Act of 2002, commonly known as the Sarbanes-Oxley legislation, has precipitated more concern about the compensation of board members in the last few years. This article provides statistics and various opinions on the legal issues which surround the subject of providing compensation, excluding reimbursement of expenses, to members of a board of directors in a nonprofit organization.

There are significant differences between the responsibilities of nonprofit and for-profit organizations. For-profits engage in commerce in order to earn financial return for their shareholders. Nonprofits operate to achieve their missions without the motivation of financial gain.

Nonprofit organizations do not have stakeholders. Instead, nonprofits owe allegiance to members, funders, grant makers, beneficiaries and employees as well as to the public, which has given nonprofit organizations special status in society.
http://www.asaecenter.org/Resources/whitepaperdetail.cfm?ItemNumber=22981

It is not illegal for a nonprofit to compensate its board members with reasonable fees unless prohibited by the organization’s bylaws. If compensation is authorized, it is advised that compensation amounts be set by independent directors or an independent compensation committee with input from outside advisors. It needs to be clear that compensation does not imply monetary profit. It is very important that board compensation be comparable to that of other nonprofit organizations and not deemed excessive by the IRS.


Federal Laws to Consider

There are several laws that should be reviewed and interpreted when considering board compensation. First, there is the Federal Volunteer Protection Act of 1997 (42 U.S.C. 14501 et. seq.) which is intended to encourage volunteerism. This act also defines a volunteer as an individual performing service who does not receive compensation, other than reasonable reimbursement or allowance for expenses actually incurred.


Form 990, which has extensive reporting requirements, is the next point to consider. Starting in tax year 2005, this form (also known as the “Return of Organization Exempt from Income Tax”) will request thorough and complete information about an organization’s compensation arrangements, as well as possible conflict of interest for officers and others.

Finally, there is the private inurement and excess benefits regulation which directly impacts the amount of compensation nonprofits may reward board members. Organizations should be aware that section 501(c)(6) of the Internal Revenue Code prohibits any part of net earnings benefiting individuals. Section 501(c)(3) contains excess benefits rules, which bar board directors and officers from profiting from their positions within a nonprofit organization. Paying reasonable fees to board members for services may be legal in some circumstances, but paying more than the recognized market average can result in stiff penalties to a nonprofit organization.

PS: I'm not trying to "beat anyone up" with this, but it is a common misconception that NPO's can not compensate board members or any other participant of the group.

PPS:

District of Columbia Regulations

Section 29-301.27 of the District of Columbia Nonprofit Corporation Act permits compensation only in reasonable amount to its members, directors, or officers for services rendered. The payment must be commensurate with the fair market value of services rendered. If the payment or service is deemed unreasonable, a court may order the payment returned to the corporation

Wescli Wardest wrote: I was wondering how one my judge the evilness of a country and started looking up a few “stats” on the murder rates and crime rates reported. The key word here is REPORTED. I'm sure that in some places, what is reported is different from what is!

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Then I thought, “Who gives out the most charity?”

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There are a number of things you could use to decide who is the most “evil.” But if you’re not working to improve the situation then are you helping or hindering? No country is a Saint and I don’t think any country is Evil. More than likely, each country is doing what they feel they must to look out for their own best interest. And to others, with different cultures and different standards, other countries may seem good or bad.

I don't think giving less to charity than France UK and germany put together puts the US in such a good light. you guys have 300mil peeps, and france, the largest country in the EU, is smaller than Texas.
Comparing reported crime rates isn't so relevant either. different countries define crime differently. You do seem to put a lot of your own people in prison though. Doesn't having the highest incarceration rate in the world worry you wescli? As a freedom-loving citizen?

What makes the US eviler than everyone else is you created the CIA and keep on funding it!

Rickie The Grey wrote:

Then I thought, “Who gives out the most charity?”

Where is Russia, China and the Middle East on this map.

That says a lot.

I think the charity map only showed the top 10, and left the rest of the world blank.

Another way of looking at it is the World Giving Index , which at that link has over 150 countries provided.


Edit; here is a map of World Giving Index. Note the legend is upside down, with green 1-5 being the most giving.