Jedi Pyramid

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10 Apr 2013 15:33 #102443 by
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Quit with the melodrama. No one burned anyone at the stake.

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10 Apr 2013 15:38 #102444 by
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Desolous wrote: Quit with the melodrama. No one burned anyone at the stake.


Sure they have, not in a literal sense but in a metaphorical sense.

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10 Apr 2013 15:39 #102445 by
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you're still here arent you? you dont seem burnt to me.

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10 Apr 2013 15:43 #102447 by
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Desolous wrote: you're still here arent you? you dont seem burnt to me.


The only reason I am still here is because I've worked very hard to keep debates to a minimum via private messaging.

Anything dealing with real teachers, systems, and teachings focusing on force mastery are something I am trying only to discuss in private here for this very reason.

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10 Apr 2013 15:46 #102448 by Wescli Wardest
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I am curious... not doubting you or anything like that, just want to satisfy my own understanding of what you are referring to. What do you mean, or what are you referring to when you say “force mastery?”

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10 Apr 2013 15:50 #102450 by
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Wescli Wardest wrote: I am curious... not doubting you or anything like that, just want to satisfy my own understanding of what you are referring to. What do you mean, or what are you referring to when you say “force mastery?”


I'll answer you via a private message if that is ok, I think it is pertinent to do so.

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10 Apr 2013 15:51 - 10 Apr 2013 15:53 #102451 by ren
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they don't agree with john chang, you don't agree with people who don't agree with john chang. big deal....

Defense, Not Assault- Jedi are not vigilantes. If, however, they are placed in a position where they are defending someone against loss of life, limb or eyesight, using the minimal amount of force necessary is covered within a Jedi's "Duty to the People".

How about you forget assault and attack, minimal amount of force, since that's up to various definitions and situations, and go for "appropriate"? appropriate is by definition not too much, not too little, it can very well be " a lot" or nothing at all... depending on the situation. It's all about self-control and awareness of a situation. "defense - A jedi only uses appropriate force for defense" ?

The only issue that I've found with "the Force" is that there are Jedi out there which do not actually believe "the Force" exists


You have to learn you can't please everyone and that is why I keep on saying you should concentrate on your people instead of involving us into something we will probably never adopt. Although I can certainly appreciate your enthusiasm in doing what you feel you must do, in the end, your document will probably end up looking like:

"A jedi is an individual who calls themselves so, and lives according to the jedi ideals which are up to that individual. A Jedi also sometimes believes in something called the force, except no-one agrees on what that is."

Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
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10 Apr 2013 16:03 - 10 Apr 2013 16:10 #102453 by
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ren wrote: they don't agree with john chang, you don't agree with people who don't agree with john chang. big deal....


I've had debates that have lasted months that didn't involve discussion about him, but rather studies published in reputable journals.

Anything of this nature is vehemently opposed by a vocal majority of Jedi I have met.
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10 Apr 2013 18:58 #102492 by ren
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maynoth wrote:

ren wrote: they don't agree with john chang, you don't agree with people who don't agree with john chang. big deal....


I've had debates that have lasted months that didn't involve discussion about him, but rather studies published in reputable journals.

Anything of this nature is vehemently opposed by a vocal majority of Jedi I have met.


Maybe jediism isn't for you then?

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11 Apr 2013 04:40 - 11 Apr 2013 04:40 #102548 by
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It seems to me that a person looking to understand and master the force in a real and tangible manner would be a good fit for the Jedi moniker. The Jedi communities at large though seem to disagree however.







ren wrote:

maynoth wrote:

ren wrote: they don't agree with john chang, you don't agree with people who don't agree with john chang. big deal....


I've had debates that have lasted months that didn't involve discussion about him, but rather studies published in reputable journals.

Anything of this nature is vehemently opposed by a vocal majority of Jedi I have met.


Maybe jediism isn't for you then?

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