SITH?

Layla wrote: I already explained it to you but I will do it once again. Yes, I definietely disagree that you promote your belief and call other belief fiction based on a sci-fi movie and call yours as the only reality. Another point where I disagree as you mentioned you saw the Sith aspect in communities. Now we know that see something and study, rather understand its mechanism and phylosophy is not the same category. The third point where I disagree that you completely deny the dark/sith aspects of the Force and power. Its just simple ignorance and denying obvious facts. Might you didn't search after the real informations about it or you saw some RPG site where underaged children played Star Wars and acted like Siths.

I'm actually having trouble finding any info other than RPG sites regarding sith. Several people have mentioned there were some good sites but they no longer exist. Anybody have the current sites that are non-RPG? If not maybe you can just post here what you identify with when you call yourself a sith.

Yeah, i guess people dabble in the negative aspects of life too and some get lost there forgetting lifes true purpose, its not much different than mental illness, if not exactly the same thing. no human is made evil in core, but mental illness can make people to. its just a state, and all states of negativity can be purged and should be.

every human is liable to falling there, even i. and i have been there for past few years, although the only thing it does to me is stop me from loving humanity, not moral compromises fortunately. while that still is the dark side for me very much, even if it might not seem so, but it is cause im supposed to be the loving kind of person.

I think theres a website called sith academy.

They are extremely knowledgeable there, and very strong in their side of the force. I found their forum, although small as it hasnt been around for a long time, very detailed, with some very well spoken individuals.

Super Goo wrote: I think theres a website called sith academy.

They are extremely knowledgeable there, and very strong in their side of the force. I found their forum, although small as it hasnt been around for a long time, very detailed, with some very well spoken individuals.

Is that ssarcasm? I apologise if it isn't but I ask because...

Their aboout page wrote: Darth Imperius is the founder and Dark Lord of Sith Academy. In 2011 he had a revelation during which he was contacted by the last of the Sith Lords of the Galaxy Far, Far Away and commanded to begin building the first Sith Order in this galaxy.

If one of our members starts receiving messsages from a non-existent fictional being from another galaxy, I would tell them to seek medical help rather than enable their hallucinations by telling them to start a religious group...

Akkarin wrote:

Super Goo wrote: I think theres a website called sith academy.

They are extremely knowledgeable there, and very strong in their side of the force. I found their forum, although small as it hasnt been around for a long time, very detailed, with some very well spoken individuals.

Is that ssarcasm? I apologise if it isn't but I ask because...

Their aboout page wrote: Darth Imperius is the founder and Dark Lord of Sith Academy. In 2011 he had a revelation during which he was contacted by the last of the Sith Lords of the Galaxy Far, Far Away and commanded to begin building the first Sith Order in this galaxy.

If one of our members starts receiving messsages from a non-existent fictional being from another galaxy, I would tell them to seek medical help rather than enable their hallucinations by telling them to start a religious group...

OoTS seems good

setanako has a youtube channel and she makes pretty good videos

Akkarin wrote: If one of our members starts receiving messsages from a non-existent fictional being from another galaxy, I would tell them to seek medical help rather than enable their hallucinations by telling them to start a religious group...

Then I assume you consider virtually every religion in existence to be the creation of lunatics who needed medical help? You may be right, but it's a rather mundane way of thinking in view of the actual historical influence of "hallucinating" prophets like Moses, Jesus and Mohammed, wouldn't you say?

Super Goo wrote: I think theres a website called sith academy.

They are extremely knowledgeable there, and very strong in their side of the force. I found their forum, although small as it hasnt been around for a long time, very detailed, with some very well spoken individuals.

Well, as you are dressed like one of their members, that leads me to think your opinion is a little biased...

That be like one of our members showing up at another dite and going, "uh, yea, uh, I heard of a jedi site called totjo, uh, yea, uh, they seem to be serious and stuff"...

Great, please go hang out there...

And Xon?

Everyone is a little crazy....

Xon-Tay Lor wrote: Then I assume you consider virtually every religion in existence to be the creation of lunatics who needed medical help? You may be right, but it's a rather mundane way of thinking in view of the actual historical influence of "hallucinating" prophets like Moses, Jesus and Mohammed, wouldn't you say?

I can forgive those religious groups who aren't bent on obtaining power and striving for galactic domination...

Well it seems pretty obvious to me that the Abrahamic religions are bent on obtaining power, so I'm not sure why you would forgive them.

To elaborate on my point further...

If we say we have hallucinated, we must define what it is that's 'real'. Failing that all we can say is that they were 'real' experiences... as to what they mean... well that is left to us to act upon...

To further clarify, to say "I forgive religion..." is unfair and generalist. I can only choose to forgive, or condemn, individuals within a religion...

Xon-Tay Lor wrote: Well it seems pretty obvious to me that the Abrahamic religions are bent on obtaining power, so I'm not sure why you would forgive them.

I am eastern orthodox, which is abrahamic

and it has nothing to do with obtaining power

and this proves you know nothing about orthodoxy

and don't you dare say that orthodoxy is a minority

it is the second highest subscription of christianity

and you just misinterpreted every single orthodox christian's beliefs



I am sorry if I sound angry, but let me make my point

western christianity is responsible for hypocritical views and horrible violence

both of which have no connection to orthodoxy

but since orthodoxy is christianity

it gets enveloped in judgement

ironically, atheists call christianity out for being judgemental

yet as an orthodox christian, I have been judged for being christian

I guess you could say I am dissapointed, I just hoped that nobody in TOTJO was this freaking ignorant and plain stupid

I don't know a lot about eastern orthodox Christianity, but I seriously doubt that it has nothing to do with obtaining power. Didn't it play a similar role as the Catholic church in eastern Europe for many centuries, and wasn't it the religious authority of the Russian empire? Perhaps you are letting your allegiance to this religion cloud your judgement a bit?

This isn't just a problem of the Abrahamic religions; all religions have some interest in power almost by definition, but the Abrahamic ones seem to have been particular good at getting it.

One person's opinion is just that, one opinion...

We will all agree and disagree... if we didn't there would only be one person running the show... a state of affairs in which we get their best and worse...

suliskveteba wrote: I guess you could say I am dissapointed, I just hoped that nobody in TOTJO was this freaking ignorant and plain stupid

Well, I dont know why you wouldnt... lol...

Please refrain from insinuation of name calling...

People have many beliefs, and as Xon has shown, speak without being fully informed sometimes...

No offence Xon, I have as well... Speaking of what I understand, and later finding out there is more to know...

So, how does your orthodoxy feel about being judgmental? It seems the comment I highlighted is a bit judgmental...

We have not said anything about your belief in the other thread...

Just becasue we dont agree with you, doesnt make you "freaking ignorant and plain stupid"...

Xon-Tay Lor wrote: I don't know a lot about eastern orthodox Christianity, but I seriously doubt that it has nothing to do with obtaining power. Didn't it play a similar role as the Catholic church in eastern Europe for many centuries, and wasn't it the religious authority of the Russian empire? Perhaps you are letting your allegiance to this religion cloud your judgement a bit?

This isn't just a problem of the Abrahamic religions; all religions have some interest in power almost by definition, but the Abrahamic ones seem to have been particular good at getting it.

that was ROCOR with the russian empire

or ROAC

they excommunicated themselves before any action was taken and repented before they realligned

and they didn't play a similar role, at all.

they didn't participate in the crusades ( except for the caucasian conflict, but that was due to self defense and had basically nothing to do with the primary cause of the war)


and it doesn't have anything to do with obtaining power, it's about recgonising power

Jestor wrote:

suliskveteba wrote: I guess you could say I am dissapointed, I just hoped that nobody in TOTJO was this freaking ignorant and plain stupid

Well, I dont know why you wouldnt... lol...

Please refrain from insinuation of name calling...

People have many beliefs, and as Xon has shown, speak without being fully informed sometimes...

No offence Xon, I have as well... Speaking of what I understand, and later finding out there is more to know...

So, how does your orthodoxy feel about being judgmental? It seems the comment I highlighted is a bit judgmental...

We have not said anything about your belief in the other thread...

Just becasue we dont agree with you, doesnt make you "freaking ignorant and plain stupid"...

oh the orthodox church would probably not be pleased with the way I acted.

but I am just annoyed at how often this happens

What, confusion?

Misinformation?

Stubbornness?

Irritation?

Come on man, you new to the planet?

Lol, just teasing...

Jestor wrote:

suliskveteba wrote: I guess you could say I am dissapointed, I just hoped that nobody in TOTJO was this freaking ignorant and plain stupid

Well, I dont know why you wouldnt... lol...

Please refrain from insinuation of name calling...

People have many beliefs, and as Xon has shown, speak without being fully informed sometimes...

No offence Xon, I have as well... Speaking of what I understand, and later finding out there is more to know...

So, how does your orthodoxy feel about being judgmental? It seems the comment I highlighted is a bit judgmental...

We have not said anything about your belief in the other thread...

Just becasue we dont agree with you, doesnt make you "freaking ignorant and plain stupid"...

also I don't mind if you don't know about orthodoxy

even though it is larger than protestantism

it is not nearly as loud and obnoxious


so I do understand if you don't know

so if you don't, ask me or look up Yusef Al Tahir, he's great at explaining orthodoxy.


this is why I got angry a while back, instead of asking like people should

they made unmeditated assumptions and treated them like facts

exactly like Xon has done.


I am perfectly able to explain the differences between Western christianity and Eastern Orthodoxy

they are more different than you could imagine



instead Xon could have said this:


from my experience Abrahamic religions seem to be involved with obtaining power



if he did, then I wouldn't have gotten angry.

Jestor wrote: What, confusion?

Misinformation?

Stubbornness?

Irritation?

Come on man, you new to the planet?

Lol, just teasing...

yeah, LOL


but my point still stands

not only did he make an assumption

he continued it without research like he did and even expanded on it.

I doubt Xon plays it.

but this is why I hate Assassin's Creed

I am not joking

I hate that game.

and most things that have a similar thought structure

that birth opinions as such

Xon-Tay Lor wrote: I don't know a lot about eastern orthodox Christianity, but I seriously doubt that it has nothing to do with obtaining power. Didn't it play a similar role as the Catholic church in eastern Europe for many centuries, and wasn't it the religious authority of the Russian empire? Perhaps you are letting your allegiance to this religion cloud your judgement a bit?

This isn't just a problem of the Abrahamic religions; all religions have some interest in power almost by definition, but the Abrahamic ones seem to have been particular good at getting it.

another point

with the russian empire, the orthodox church actually fought oppression

father Gapon?

Alaska?