So i guess everyone is leaving..?

Tella, you and I aren't going to agree on the point of banning people over disagreements, so let's not bother with trying to pretend like we will. It'll make both our lives easier, I promise.

I stand by my statement. Banning people over disagreements - however they're presented - isn't appropriate at this juncture. It's just my opinion, my two cents. Feel free to have your own, but there's no need to comment on mine.

steamboat28 wrote:

Tellahane wrote: I never said you don't need to know, but some darker sides are showing from the exhaustion and you don't need to be subjected to that part of it. When decisions become final you will be filled in with the full chunk, just as even I don't know fully what all is going on, just have a better idea then some. It is in our doctrine to protect and defend, that's whats being done.

For all our talk about needing more transparency, this is a really opaque answer.

I made a new thread on the topic for anyone still interested.

Since I'm not included the knights chat where this is happening it's not like I can give a better answer steam, that's as detailed as what I know =p

Tellahane wrote: In what way are you feeling neglected specifically. What need of yours is not being met?

Well, we're left in the dark having to fend for ourselves. We are led to believe this place is going up in flames. This is supposed to be a church, a sanctuary. Right now, it's not. The new members aren't being talked to or helped. The novices aren't getting any help. Our spiritual needs aren't being met. All we've been told to do is shut up and wait. How are we supposed to be patient when we've been given no reason to have faith?

Tellahane wrote: Since I'm not included the knights chat where this is happening it's not like I can give a better answer steam, that's as detailed as what I know =p

PRECISELY!

Avalonslight wrote: Tella, you and I aren't going to agree on the point of banning people over disagreements, so let's not bother with trying to pretend like we will. It'll make both our lives easier, I promise.

I stand by my statement. Banning people over disagreements - however they're presented - isn't appropriate at this juncture. It's just my opinion, my two cents. Feel free to have your own, but there's no need to comment on mine.

I think that's because we disagree that its a ban on a disagreement, you believe its not appropriate to ban when someone disagrees, I feel that its appropriate when someone does it in a verbally offensive matter, not when they disagree peacefully. I agree they shouldn't be banned if they disagree peacefully.

Nami wrote:

Tellahane wrote: In what way are you feeling neglected specifically. What need of yours is not being met?

Well, we're left in the dark having to fend for ourselves. We are led to believe this place is going up in flames. This is supposed to be a church, a sanctuary. Right now, it's not. The new members aren't being talked to or helped. The novices aren't getting any help. Our spiritual needs aren't being met. All we've been told to do is shut up and wait. How are we supposed to be patient when we've been given no reason to have faith?

1. Stop listening to the rumors gossip is bad for your health in general no matter where you go.
2. The IP support team has never stopped working during this process if you need help with the IP I would be more then happy to assist you
3. Rosalyn and others have repeatedly offered their support of your spiritual needs in the last week or so I'm not sure again what needs aren't being met?