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What would help the Temple Be A Better Place? Suggestions please...
Roz's query was rather open-ended. All she is asking is what thoughts if any led you to believe/feel as you do. Sounds straightforward enough to me, no need to write an entire thesis paper about it.Bradly wrote: All questions I haven't prepared for.
So is the teaching of fully committed devotees. The Code, in my opinion, makes no encouragement to devote oneself to the Force, let alone to worship it. Sure, maybe someone who doesn't worship it is not quite the right person to teach worshipping it but... Would that actually leave out an otherwise vital Jediist teaching?[Those who lack devotion of the force] can teach the meaning and what they believe the force is. But that is only opinion.
Do they?... devotion and belief go hand in hand.
Oh, alright. Take your time. Maybe some of us will remember what we went on about in however many months it takes this time.give me time and I shall have answeres. Last time it took me 2 years just to answer a question that in depth. Patience my brothers and sisters.
... I will be more in depth later.

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Well fck, if you want to call yourself a Jedi then maybe you should learn how to do these things. Maybe it is more useful to let some of this play out and allow people the opportunity to learn from it than to just shut it down in order to protect us all from our own selves and our own feelings? And If a conversation happens to branch off into a new direction, maybe thats OK, too? The only IRL conversations that I have had which have stayed “on topic” were work conversations, where there were very specific goals and parameters and we had to stay within them in order to achieve what we had to achieve - natural discussions tend to evolve and grow and move off into new and unexpected territory. Thats just the nature of conversation. And hey, maybe it takes years YEARS for people to grow up and learn how to be cool - MAYBE thats OK, too. Maybe we should be allowed to be flawed.
I really dislike the new layout of the Temple: this “Outer Rim” and etc - I respect the intent behind it but it makes everything much MUCH more difficult to navigate, at least for me on my device. Its really a pain in the ass tbh.The only benefit that I ever saw to it was the possibility that MAYBE we could have a space that WASNT so goddam safe. A space where we could just go ahead and be real with each other. The explanation that I seem to remember was that there is now a SAFE SPACE in the Temple and there is also the “Outer Rim”. My understanding was obviously incorrect. Even the “Outer Rim” is still all “safe space”. We’re still heavily moderated and babied. I dont really think that it is good for people who arent babies to be babied. Babies should be babied. The rest of us need to grow tf up.
Jedi Masters - lol. Sure. Have to silence and censor people because you cannot communicate well enough to navigate either them nor even the rest of us through silly arguments on the internet - but you're a Jedi Master.
LOL.
OK.
People are complicated.
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Mommy Temple was supposed to teach us a lesson about adulthood, was it? Supposed by whom? And what lesson was that, then, anyway?
And what lesson for that matter are you trying to offer, exactly? Adults aren't spanked by daddy society for unruliness of each other, are they? Adults are maybe held responsible for their own children and children in their class, sometimes, but not for entirely strange ones, either, or are they? And adults are also given a fair trial where they get to express and defend their view of the situation, are they not? Yet here we are, promised a place where we can take off our masks, then punished for the grotesque grimaces others reveal in so doing, and the way you see things it's not even fair to voice a healthy dissatisfaction with that?
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I imagine this post will also be deleted. As i said, TOTJO caters to babies and to bllshtters. forceuser - since you refuse to meet with me how about we do the next best thing? Have a Skype conversation with someone who I name. There is a particular person whose judgment i trust and respect. If you speak to him for a while and he comes back and says that he believes that you were a soldier and a sheriff’s deputy and most especially, if he says that he believes that you are basically an honset person, i will publicly apologize to you. I will bow my head and admit to the entire community that I was being a jerk and that I mistreated you. Im pretty sure that I know what the answer is going to be but by all means, prove me wrong.
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The "Outer Rim" in Star Wars is akin to the wild west. While it doesn't mean no sheriffs should exist there, it does mean that moderators shouldn't be sensitive. I go to the Outer Rim because I want to have adult conversations with other adults. And yes, I like debating. And when a good thread is locked I feel unduly punished by it as well because I didn't get a chance to participate. I think everyone deserves the opportunity to be heard on an issue or topic without trying reboot it.
So my suggestion is.... moderators should not only have rules of engagement but also understand that debate tactics can also include red herrings and ad hominem attacks and these are things that we have to learn how to handle if we're going to go out there and fight for a better world. How can we do this effectively if we aren't even allowed to spar with each other in the safety of our own website?
If a poster feels attacked and that the conversation has crossed a line they should PM the person they have a problem and try to work it out. Only after they've done that and made a good attempt at amends, should they be allowed to contact a mod who should then have a conversation with both parties, make a ruling, and only lock the thread if the parties cannot abide by the ruling. But the mods should have to say who was in the wrong and specifically what was wrong in what they said. Otherwise, no one can really learn from it and it will simply frustrate people until no one wants to start new and interesting threads. And that's not what you want. So I'm asking you please, for the greater good, please stop locking threads in the Outer Rim.
Thank you for considering this humble request.
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As far as the website goes, it would be cool if I can find more pictures that can go successfully in my album

Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering ~ Yoda
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