What would help the Temple Be A Better Place? Suggestions please...

Rosalyn J wrote: Though that is true, special attention should be given to our disposition precisely for that reason. It doesn't do well to behave in one manner and then say to another who is discouraged by it, "you don't know the real me"

This is all we get, and you control what you put out here. More perhaps than any other medium of communication

What manner? I'm still clueless as to what were really talking about, lol! Specifics people, please....

JEDIONE777 wrote: This is exactly the attitude I am talking about: the spirit of serving: what an earth is wrong with that... please enlighten me... I find these forums discursive and without proper aim, clarity, reality and defining collective goals: besides becoming enlightened whom ever said it was just this... its the action in the world that matters not the being whom enacts it...

Alexander,

I'm curious about what you mean with "collective goals". What kind of change would you like to see around here?

I find this temple has put a lot of effort and time into all of this, with that being said I beliee that the privacy of the journals and the way to become a member should possibly change.
those who do believe iin the force and all the teachings of jediism should be allowed to be a member and yes those who don't believe right now can end up believeing in the future but hear me out.
I have been here a month and I already see controversy between jedi and others. and I see memebers who obviously don't truly believe in the force and ethir treat this a roleplaying or just something to do and yes there are guests who are serious about bettering themselves and still ont believe in the force. but yes the amount that should be done in the field of guests would not just make member here who have been memebers for years more comfortable itll make a lot of emotional tension disappear and unneeded drama disappear.
with all this being said here is what I personally believe that shuld be changed to making becoming a member more of a jedi experience.

Within the application to becoming a jedi one must first fininsh a brand new original IP one specifically made to become a jedi and with that time period of accepting the application we valuate the answeres. (I'm not saying we have to be strict but actually vary leanyent) I mean anyone can become a believer in jedi ism and we don't want this to be anything negative but the ip members program should be
about our beliefs
the way of the force
and the way of the jedi
just so before anyone becomes a member they will have a great understanding on what it means to be a true jedi. a real jedi.

and anyone wanting to learn more about jediism will have no problem watching or reading the IP just to get a better understanding of who we are. I strongly believe that alone will solve a huge amount of problems.

Deeply,
Bradly Thomas
May the force be with you.

Bradly wrote: I find this temple has put a lot of effort and time into all of this, with that being said I beliee that the privacy of the journals and the way to become a member should possibly change.
those who do believe iin the force and all the teachings of jediism should be allowed to be a member and yes those who don't believe right now can end up believeing in the future but hear me out.
I have been here a month and I already see controversy between jedi and others. and I see memebers who obviously don't truly believe in the force and ethir treat this a roleplaying or just something to do and yes there are guests who are serious about bettering themselves and still ont believe in the force. but yes the amount that should be done in the field of guests would not just make member here who have been memebers for years more comfortable itll make a lot of emotional tension disappear and unneeded drama disappear.
with all this being said here is what I personally believe that shuld be changed to making becoming a member more of a jedi experience.

Within the application to becoming a jedi one must first fininsh a brand new original IP one specifically made to become a jedi and with that time period of accepting the application we valuate the answeres. (I'm not saying we have to be strict but actually vary leanyent) I mean anyone can become a believer in jedi ism and we don't want this to be anything negative but the ip members program should be
about our beliefs
the way of the force
and the way of the jedi
just so before anyone becomes a member they will have a great understanding on what it means to be a true jedi. a real jedi.

and anyone wanting to learn more about jediism will have no problem watching or reading the IP just to get a better understanding of who we are. I strongly believe that alone will solve a huge amount of problems.

Deeply,
Bradly Thomas
May the force be with you.

That would mean defining Jediism, restricting it and cutting out those that don't meet that standard. More likely than not, that would cut out a bit of leadership, and we need those.

A new IP won't change things, sadly. Anyone can bull and do the IP, new or old, and still not be a Jedi. How would you determine who is and who is not a Jedi? I know a few around here that may not consider me one, and have straight up said it to me. But then there are others that call me an excellent example of what it is to be a Jedi. Who is right, who is wrong?

I cannot delete this post I meant to make a reply to arisag. I apologize

I apologise I meant to put not to restrict or cause the temple to have that sort of powe and yes I see that no one has the true duty to say what is right and what is wrong, and by all means I'm not saying "LETS GET RID OF THE NON JEDIS" that its self is very non jedi way. all I suggest is a new ip. and yes people can lie and say what ever just to beome a jedi but it will alwaysbe there and even if it helps just one person that should be enough. but aye we shouldn't have the right to chose just a spit ball. but the ip itself would and possibly make a huge difference.
but
withing the memebership application
it does state that they will monitor the application
and chose to accept it or not. so isn't that the same thing to be honest?
whats an extra step?
the ip if done correctly wouldn't take more than 3 days to learn and to wright about, so itll fit perfectly within the 7 day peramiter.
I do believe we should give everyone a chance that's why I suggest it, so those who are coming in just for laughs will see something other than and quote (from what my grandpa told me " people who worship fiction" and I have seen people who treat this as the fictional starwars jedi order. and it does sadden me a bit to see that and that they are memebers of the order
and as a memever
they now represent the order itself.
I have hope and faith in the temple
and I know a lot of us do to.
its a matter of personal view.
but the ip would help solve issues. even if its small and takes along time.

thank you .

I sorry if this won't be popular, I really don't see how a Star Wars category adds to the credibility of the Temple as a religious organization. I think if there were less movie/fantasy/images posted and in discussions the Temple would be looked as more of a cultivator of the living force and personal development.

The IP is not designed to be completed that quickly, Bradly. It's not something you can just go through and check mark boxes in. Currently the IP has a 60 minimum requirement from start to the earliest point you can become an initiate. This is to force you to slow down, think, and actually digest the material that's there and learn from it.

Further, the IP is also designed to be the first step on the training process if you want to gain a rank at TOTJO, nothing more. TOTJO has never required her members to seek rank in order to be a member. In fact, there are plenty of people here who are strong, contributing members of TOTJO that have never even begun the IP. Neither is meant to be a prerequisite for the other.

As for the actual content of the IP, in my almost five years here, that has evolved and changed multiple times. I'm sure it will again. And I don't think the knights are above fielding suggestions if you have specific ones in mind.

Arisaig wrote: But then there are others that call me an excellent example of what it is to be a Jedi. Who is right, who is wrong?

I am right. Confusion cleared. You are welcome. :laugh:

Rickie wrote: I sorry if this won't be popular, I really don't see how a Star Wars category adds to the credibility of the Temple as a religious organization. I think if there were less movie/fantasy/images posted and in discussions the Temple would be looked as more of a cultivator of the living force and personal development.

In other words: Let the geek die. Kill it if you have to.

I disagree. I think the fantasy adds to our particular flavor of life. A good example of geekiness used for the power of good can be found here (not a Jediism site): https://www.nerdfitness.com/