The Topic of Censorship and Banning

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18 Jun 2018 13:02 - 18 Jun 2018 13:03 #323234 by Brick
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Following a discussion in the Shoutbox, and request to move this to the forum, I have started this thread.

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please can I remind everyone of the terms of use laid out in Behaviour Unbecoming, link at the top of the page.

And, in line with that, can we avoid the use on names, unless absolutely necessary to the topic of discussion.
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18 Jun 2018 13:07 #323236 by Brick
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Athena_Undomiel wrote: Zenchi is right, my concern is the council-bashing and assumed "censorship by fear of banning" on the about box. I agree the conversation should be moved to the forum


Also, for the record, I wasn't bashing the council. I was voicing my concern at current council policy. I have no problem with the council as individuals or as a group.
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18 Jun 2018 13:08 #323237 by Carlos.Martinez3
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Due to privacy issues and such - you are not gunna be able to know about every ban and every reason why...
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18 Jun 2018 13:11 #323240 by RosalynJ
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I'd be interested to see what you guys come up with. If you all can come up with a solid proposal, just send the fruit to me or any Council member in a PM. We will read the proposal and voice our consents. 7 consents are needed to pass any proposal
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18 Jun 2018 13:12 #323241 by Brick
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Carlos.Martinez3 wrote: Due to privacy issues and such - you are not gunna be able to know about every ban and every reason why...


Thats fair enough. But given that most of the bannings happen due to things that occur in the public forum, its seems daft that they those public occurances should then be 'soft deleted'.

For example, OB1's current ban. I'm only kicking up a fuss because I can't see why he was banned, despite everything he did being in the public forum. If I could see it, I might think 'yeah, fair enough, he was being a dick'. But I can't. So now I have no clue why he was banned. Which makes things look really fishy
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18 Jun 2018 13:13 #323242 by Carlos.Martinez3
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Feel free to ask for a list or something like that - ask - that’s what you CAN do
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18 Jun 2018 13:14 #323243 by Brick
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Carlos.Martinez3 wrote: Feel free to ask for a list or something like that - ask - that’s what you CAN do


That's what I AM doing :laugh: ;)
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18 Jun 2018 13:15 - 18 Jun 2018 13:16 #323244 by
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Rosalyn J wrote: I'd be interested to see what you guys come up with. If you all can come up with a solid proposal, just send the fruit to me or any Council member in a PM. We will read the proposal and voice our consents. 7 consents are needed to pass any proposal


How about a locked thread that only council can comment on with the inciting event, warnings, and final event posted in spoilers? That way its still up for people to go check on, but it can be removed from the threads so to get the thread back on track? Anything further from that really should just be done by private request in PMs.

EDIT: Screenshots of the event, not just a written report.
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18 Jun 2018 13:16 #323245 by Carlos.Martinez3
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Brick wrote:

Carlos.Martinez3 wrote: Due to privacy issues and such - you are not gunna be able to know about every ban and every reason why...


Thats fair enough. But given that most of the bannings happen due to things that occur in the public forum, its seems daft that they those public occurances should then be 'soft deleted'.

For example, OB1's current ban. I'm only kicking up a fuss because I can't see why he was banned, despite everything he did being in the public forum. If I could see it, I might think 'yeah, fair enough, he was being a dick'. But I can't. So now I have no clue why he was banned. Which makes things look really fishy


Suggestion :

Directly contact officers or mods or council member - ask- directly for a direct answer. No amount of information is hidden here. It won’t be public. You may have to kindly ask privately .
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18 Jun 2018 13:16 #323246 by Zenchi
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Carlos.Martinez3 wrote: Due to privacy issues and such - you are not gunna be able to know about every ban and every reason why...


OK, I have one suggestion on this topic. A thread was locked because certain pronouns were used towards a certain member, never was it made public which pronouns should be used or would have been preferred. This, cannot continue...

If threads like that are going to be locked for such reasons, that information needs to be made public as to who wants to be called what pronouns, otherwise we're avoiding clarification which could help avoid further confusion....
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