(NSFW)The Emperor Has No Balls

Leah Starspectre wrote

99.9% of people who saw it certainly found it humourous. Also as a reflection of what Trump himself speaks about.

Did you poll everyone who saw this marvelous piece of crapola? No offense, this entire statement is your opinion, and of course your entitled to it, but lets stop thinking that just because it is your "opinion" that its truth, because that can cause quite a few problems, especially when communicating with others...

I dont like it, I find it relatively distasteful , but even as an artist I acknowledge this is a piece of art, regardless of the fact. Should it be shown in public, or even privately? I dont think so, the purpose behind it is disgusting imo. Regardless, once we start believing we can "officially" dictate what is art and what is not, then things begin to turn south as they say...

Zenchi wrote: Leah Starspectre wrote

99.9% of people who saw it certainly found it humourous. Also as a reflection of what Trump himself speaks about.

Did you poll everyone who saw this marvelous piece of crapola? No offense, this entire statement is your opinion, and of course your entitled to it, but lets stop thinking that just because it is your "opinion" that its truth, because that can cause quite a few problems, especially when communicating with others...

Actually, I was being facetious.

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: What does Hitlers artwork have to do with anything? For that matter what does the subject of the creation that indecline did have to do with anything? Have I once said I don't like it because it depicts Trump in a negative light? No I have not. the subject is irrelevant and I would appreciate it if you would stop avoiding the points I have raised by trying to put words into my mouth.

As for Hitlers works of art, yes they are artwork because they were done in the spirit of art. As for trolling, you are the one that brought up Hitler, not I. I have never said Hitlers works were not art because they are. Nor have I ever demonized the members of indecline as complete monsters. What I have said is that their creations (past and present - political candidate or not) are done in the same spirit of hate and cruelty that other groups demonstrate and that in turn cannot be considered art.

See above.

Comparing artwork to 9/11 is ridiculous....Just as ridiculous as bringing Hitler into an online argument. Ever.

If the artist created it as art (which we can safely assume, as Indecline is called an "anarchist art collective"), then it's art. Anarchist art. Not terrorism, not hate speech. Even if you don't like it, that doesn't mean it isn't artful or thought-provoking.

Leah Starspectre wrote: See above.

Comparing artwork to 9/11 is ridiculous....Just as ridiculous as bringing Hitler into an online argument. Ever.

If the artist created it as art (which we can safely assume, as Indecline is called an "anarchist art collective"), then it's art. Anarchist art. Not terrorism, not hate speech. Even if you don't like it, that doesn't mean it isn't artful or thought-provoking.

You miss the point once again. I'm not comparing 9/11 to this creation. I'm comparing the MOTIVATIONS behind the two. indecline can call themselves whatever they want but it does not change the fact that they are are no more artists than they are anarchists. Anarchists generally believe that human beings are capable of managing their own affairs on the basis of creativity, cooperation, and mutual respect, and when making individual decisions they are taking into account the concerns of others and the well-being of society. Libertarians are as close to true anarchists as possible in our modern day society. indecline displays none of these traits - they are closer to chaotics than anything - a philosophy of "to each his own" at any cost and screw the rest. In effect they espouse a world built on indifference and cruelty in which any means justifies their personal ends.

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: In effect they espouse a world built on indifference and cruelty in which any means justifies their personal ends.

Trump supporters should probably avoid throwing stones about "indifference and cruelty" and belief systems in which the ends justify the means, since that kind of thinking is at the heart of their Dear Leader's message.

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: You miss the point once again. I'm not comparing 9/11 to this creation. I'm comparing the MOTIVATIONS behind the two. indecline can call themselves whatever/ they want but it does not change the fact that they are are no more artists than they are anarchists. Anarchists generally believe that human beings are capable of managing their own affairs on the basis of creativity, cooperation, and mutual respect, and when making individual decisions they are taking into account the concerns of others and the well-being of society. Libertarians are as close to true anarchists as possible in our modern day society. indecline displays none of these traits - they are closer to chaotics than anything - a philosophy of "to each his own" at any cost and screw the rest. In effect they espouse a world built on indifference and cruelty in which any means justifies their personal ends.

Oh I SEE! You mean the motivation of this particular piece of artwork is to kill and maim thousands and inspire fear in a whole country! Because that's what the motivation of 9/11 was. Or is it to merely dehumanize thousands so that they are ashamed of who they are, and feel that their God wants them dead or is glad for their deaths? Because that's the Westboro Baptist Church's motivation.

Or maybe...JUST MAYBE it's just a group of artists poking fun at a loudmouth presidential candidate?

Adi wrote:

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: In effect they espouse a world built on indifference and cruelty in which any means justifies their personal ends.

Trump supporters should probably avoid throwing stones about "indifference and cruelty" and belief systems in which the ends justify the means, since that kind of thinking is at the heart of their Dear Leader's message.

Clinton supporters self deluded misconceptions are really not my issue.

Leah Starspectre wrote: Oh I SEE! You mean the motivation of this particular piece of artwork is to kill and maim thousands and inspire fear in a whole country! Because that's what the motivation of 9/11 was. Or is it to merely dehumanize thousands so that they are ashamed of who they are, and feel that their God wants them dead or is glad for their deaths? Because that's the Westboro Baptist Church's motivation.

LOL exactly! Now your starting to get it. If they could get that kind of response dont think for a second that they would not do anything it takes in pursuit of their goal. God and death aside their motivation is fear and cruelty, just so they can get a laugh at the sheep that follow, nothing more. They are actually making fun at people like you who buy into their form of brutality.

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: They are actually making fun at people like you who buy into their form of brutality.

Can you prove this? How did you come to this conclusion?

Zenchi wrote:

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: They are actually making fun at people like you who buy into their form of brutality.

Can you prove this? How did you come to this conclusion?

Lol, have you not been following along?

It just looks like a naked fat guy to me, quite literally nothing to see :lol: