(NSFW)The Emperor Has No Balls

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote:

Zenchi wrote:

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: They are actually making fun at people like you who buy into their form of brutality.

Can you prove this? How did you come to this conclusion?

Lol, have you not been following along?

In other words, no, you cannot prove any of it...

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: LOL exactly! Now your starting to get it. If they could get that kind of response dont think for a second that they would not do anything it takes in pursuit of their goal. God and death aside their motivation is fear and cruelty, just so they can get a laugh at the sheep that follow, nothing more. They are actually making fun at people like you who buy into their form of brutality.

You can't say "God and death aside" for evangelism and terrorism. That's the actual motivation. They act with the purpose of God/death.

There is no fear or brutality involved in this art piece. Who is afraid because of it? Is Trump so fragile that this kind of mockery would inspire fear in him? Who is being brutalized? People's virgin eyes? And I'm pretty sure they're making fun of Trump, not "people like me."

And what do you mean "anything it takes in pursuit of their goal"? Are you suggesting that they would kill or harm people to create their art? Breaking a few civic properly by-laws is not brutality or terrorism.

Leah Starspectre wrote:

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: LOL exactly! Now your starting to get it. If they could get that kind of response dont think for a second that they would not do anything it takes in pursuit of their goal. God and death aside their motivation is fear and cruelty, just so they can get a laugh at the sheep that follow, nothing more. They are actually making fun at people like you who buy into their form of brutality.

You can't say "God and death aside" for evangelism and terrorism. That's the actual motivation. They act with the purpose of God/death.

There is no fear or brutality involved in this art piece. Who is afraid because of it? Is Trump so fragile that this kind of mockery would inspire fear in him? Who is being brutalized? People's virgin eyes? And I'm pretty sure they're making fun of Trump, not "people like me."

And what do you mean "anything it takes in pursuit of their goal"? Are you suggesting that they would kill or harm people to create their art? Breaking a few civic properly by-laws is not brutality or terrorism.

There is video of them spray painting a man as he walks down the street. Further you sound like you are saying that their actions are no big deal. Im sorry but breaking into and defacing some ones property is most assuredly a big deal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZDoagrTvGw

MadHatter wrote:

Leah Starspectre wrote:

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: LOL exactly! Now your starting to get it. If they could get that kind of response dont think for a second that they would not do anything it takes in pursuit of their goal. God and death aside their motivation is fear and cruelty, just so they can get a laugh at the sheep that follow, nothing more. They are actually making fun at people like you who buy into their form of brutality.

You can't say "God and death aside" for evangelism and terrorism. That's the actual motivation. They act with the purpose of God/death.

There is no fear or brutality involved in this art piece. Who is afraid because of it? Is Trump so fragile that this kind of mockery would inspire fear in him? Who is being brutalized? People's virgin eyes? And I'm pretty sure they're making fun of Trump, not "people like me."

And what do you mean "anything it takes in pursuit of their goal"? Are you suggesting that they would kill or harm people to create their art? Breaking a few civic properly by-laws is not brutality or terrorism.

There is video of them spray painting a man as he walks down the street. Further you sound like you are saying that their actions are no big deal. Im sorry but breaking into and defacing some ones property is most assuredly a big deal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZDoagrTvGw

No.....I"'m saying it's not terrorism or brutality. I didn't say is was right. Spray painting public, or even private, property is a nuisance, not brutality.

Leah Starspectre wrote:

MadHatter wrote:

Leah Starspectre wrote:

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: LOL exactly! Now your starting to get it. If they could get that kind of response dont think for a second that they would not do anything it takes in pursuit of their goal. God and death aside their motivation is fear and cruelty, just so they can get a laugh at the sheep that follow, nothing more. They are actually making fun at people like you who buy into their form of brutality.

You can't say "God and death aside" for evangelism and terrorism. That's the actual motivation. They act with the purpose of God/death.

There is no fear or brutality involved in this art piece. Who is afraid because of it? Is Trump so fragile that this kind of mockery would inspire fear in him? Who is being brutalized? People's virgin eyes? And I'm pretty sure they're making fun of Trump, not "people like me."

And what do you mean "anything it takes in pursuit of their goal"? Are you suggesting that they would kill or harm people to create their art? Breaking a few civic properly by-laws is not brutality or terrorism.

There is video of them spray painting a man as he walks down the street. Further you sound like you are saying that their actions are no big deal. Im sorry but breaking into and defacing some ones property is most assuredly a big deal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZDoagrTvGw

No.....I"'m saying it's not terrorism or brutality. I didn't say is was right. Spray painting public, or even private, property is a nuisance, not brutality.

What do you call them starting bumfights or attacking that man with spray paint in the street? Further breaking into peoples property can indeed make them feel unsafe so as one definition of brutality is great cruelty the argument can be made they are brutal thugs.

MadHatter wrote: What do you call them starting bumfights or attacking that man with spray paint in the street? Further breaking into peoples property can indeed make them feel unsafe so as one definition of brutality is great cruelty the argument can be made they are brutal thugs.

I call attacking people assault.

I call forcibly entering someone's home against their wishes break and entry.

I call spray painting buildings a nuisance.

And I call "The Emperor Has No Balls" subversive art.

It does nobody any good to make generalizations about a group of people.

Leah Starspectre wrote:

MadHatter wrote: What do you call them starting bumfights or attacking that man with spray paint in the street? Further breaking into peoples property can indeed make them feel unsafe so as one definition of brutality is great cruelty the argument can be made they are brutal thugs.

I call attacking people assault.

I call forcibly entering someone's home against their wishes break and entry.

I call spray painting buildings a nuisance.

And I call "The Emperor Has No Balls" subversive art.

It does nobody any good to make generalizations about a group of people.

Generalizing? They have a history of encouraging violence, attacking people ( as shown in their own video) and breaking into property and defacing it. There is no generalization in saying that they are brutes and thugs. They behave like it and show no care for what they do to people or their property. Also have you ever had your property damaged or broken into? I have and can tell you its far from a just a nuisance its costly and if its your home broken into or your place of business it can be rather scary. Now does that taint their art as has been put forward? Eeeeeeh that is iffy. However as artist intent is something to consider when looking at art it is something to consider.

Adi wrote: Trump supporters should probably avoid throwing stones about "indifference and cruelty" and belief systems in which the ends justify the means, since that kind of thinking is at the heart of their Dear Leader's message.

Woaaaah, hold on chaps.
Everyone knows that Trump isn't diplomatic, but this isn't a conversation about the merits of American presidential candidates, rather about a specific piece of art. Also, let's not go full ad hitlerum.
We're simply decrying that a criminal group has decided to make a crass joke under the guise of art. Not making judgments about Trump himself.
Art is a human composition that showcases the creator's skill or imagination. While it there is a certain obvious amount of artistic license in it, it isn't something that's created for that purpose.
The artistic intent is clear seeing this group's history.
Regardless of your views on Trump, you have to look at this for it's artistic merits (which I think are nonexistent).

Bla bla bla '( to everyone including myself)

You don't get to decide what is art , you do get to decide whether you are offended by it ...i think we are lucky here, in Russia Putin consideres himself a piece of art ...i am a liite offended by that , but i woke up this morning and i am still fully functioning so , not much happened really

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