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UK leaves European Union!
Adder wrote: United in diversity :pinch:
If Scotland builds some big dam's it can sell the fossil fuels to Eastern Europe and the clean hydro power to England!!
and if the plans for the EU military go forward I can see Glasgow becoming the ship building queen it once was Cx
(If Scotland choose to join the EU after leaving the UK)
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Guess who already made millions though, these rats win no matter who wins or loses.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-latest-george-soros-wins-big-prediction-black-friday-a7102481.html
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Strider wrote: Say what you want but the bottom line is, the people made their choice on what they felt was best.
Just because some people may think they are right and those who voted leave are wrong, does not mean that is the case, in politics there is hardly ever a clear cut wrong and right, it is all subjective as is so much in this world.
The idea that the UK voting to come out of the EU is undemocratic and far right extremist is beyond me?
The EU was not a bastion of democracy it was a corrupt cesspool leading way to a corporate dictatorship and the people here claiming it was an amazing social union and lead to peace, I just don't know where you get this idea from... it has lead to unbelievable amounts of political and social tension as nations and peoples with different wishes and views were clashed and tied together and forced to follow suit.
That is not democracy, with no less than 3 layers between the elected membership and top authorities in the EU and their desire to eliminate nation states and their identity and parliamentary democracy I fail to see how it can be anything more than a plan for a corporate take over of Europe.
People, real decent people do not need elites to unite and busineses to have special rights and any political union to have a strong united peaceful social union and friendship amongst others.
I am happy we are out of the abrasive behemoth that the EU has become and I truly hope that on a grass root level we can remain friends and now with the political and economic tensions gone, we can cooperate freely without being forced into anything. (like the Nordic Council)
You can argue that the EU promoted peace till the sun dies but at least this one issue is factually incorrect, the EU has bullied and provoked Russia and has caused immense tension in recent years. With statements and plans to create an EU military "to combat Russia". The issue in Ukraine of course a great example, the reason the EU really wants Ukraine to join? The oil, and with it the money, which is what the entire EU project has always been about, you only need to look into how the heiarchy is run to see the truth to this.
This is a happy time for me and I feel it would be for many more if only they looked beyond the media that is controlled by those very people that benefit from the EU and it's elitist ways.
My only sadness is for the climate change and environmental policies the EU has managed to achieve, but there is no reason the UK and any of the next nations to leave the EU won't and can't make their own measures to save the earth.
A sensible and reasonable reason to want to leave. But why not reform it for the better? One of the strongest reform voices in the EU was Britain, if we leave in what other direction might it now turn? Britain has a veto on the creation of an EU army. If we leave the veto disappears and the creation of such an army becomes all the more likely...
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Desolous wrote: I think I can speak for economists everywhere when I say WTF, Britain.
Economists made money out of it. Well I did. You can always count on the less educated part of any population to voluntarily make you richer because some garbage pamphlet or newspaper told them how to vote. I'm just glad for once the idiots are not from my country!
I think it'll be well funny if the UK delays article 50 application and the EU opts to suspend UK membership through article 7 for not being democratic enough.
Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
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ren wrote: I think it'll be well funny if the UK delays article 50 application and the EU opts to suspend UK membership through article 7 for not being democratic enough.
I really hope the EU doesn't do that. Though I'm not sure how they would do that. A referendum is only asking for public opinion, there is nothing legally binding about it that says the government has to anything about. Cameron is a clear stay man, so why on earth would a government under his rule invoke article 50.
Besides, the EU didn't do anything to Greece when they ignored their people
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Brick wrote:
ren wrote: I think it'll be well funny if the UK delays article 50 application and the EU opts to suspend UK membership through article 7 for not being democratic enough.
I really hope the EU doesn't do that. Though I'm not sure how they would do that. A referendum is only asking for public opinion, there is nothing legally binding about it that says the government has to anything about. Cameron is a clear stay man, so why on earth would a government under his rule invoke article 50.
Besides, the EU didn't do anything to Greece when they ignored their people
???!!!! A referendum is direct democracy, a decision directly made by the people, and not by the people's representatives. The UK has only ever had 3 (1 about remaining in the EU which succeeded, 1 about making parliament a bit more representative which failed miserably, and this last one). You're damn right the EU expects the UK to promptly invoke article 50, because EU rules say they should. I doubt it'll get to this point, but someone in brussels did mention it as ''the nuclear option'', which means it is an option.
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