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24 Jun 2016 17:44 #246330 by Alethea Thompson

Vraell wrote: Uk left EU. What do you think will be the future of the European Union? Will UK be Divided too with Scotland becoming independent?


Well, they've not left yet, the populace has only made a determination that they want to leave. According to my friend Sotunus, the official decision will be made next week.

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24 Jun 2016 17:48 #246331 by
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Your friend is wrong, Alethea.

The decision to leave has been made and the EU themselves are talking about a timescale for our departure. There's no decision next week - they're going to elect a new Prime Minister who will then aim to start the countdown to our departure when elected in October, if the EU haven't decided for us first.

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24 Jun 2016 17:53 - 24 Jun 2016 17:54 #246332 by Avalon
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tzb wrote: Your friend is wrong, Alethea.

The decision to leave has been made and the EU themselves are talking about a timescale for our departure. There's no decision next week - they're going to elect a new Prime Minister who will then aim to start the countdown to our departure when elected in October, if the EU haven't decided for us first.


And yet with certain things coming to light since the results (such the whole £350+ mil that could be transfered to the NHS being completely false, but supposedly being one of the main reasons behind the leave vote) does the possibility exist that such a decision might be reversed? Everything we're hearing here says that this vote is not legally binding. Obviously Cameron's decision to resign as a result makes things a bit more complicated...

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24 Jun 2016 17:54 #246333 by Edan
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To ignore it would be political suicide. The people spoke... If the gov didn't pass it nobody would ever trust them again.

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tzb wrote: Your friend is wrong, Alethea.

The decision to leave has been made and the EU themselves are talking about a timescale for our departure. There's no decision next week - they're going to elect a new Prime Minister who will then aim to start the countdown to our departure when elected in October, if the EU haven't decided for us first.


And yet with certain things coming to light since the results (such the whole £350+ mil that could be transfered to the NHL being completely false, but supposedly being one of the main reasons behind the leave vote) does the possibility exist that such a decision might be reversed? Everything we're hearing here says that this vote is not legally binding. Obviously Cameron's decision to resign as a result makes things a bit more complicated...


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24 Jun 2016 18:01 #246334 by Avalon
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Edan wrote: To ignore it would be political suicide. The people spoke... If the gov didn't pass it nobody would ever trust them again.

Avalonslight wrote:

tzb wrote: Your friend is wrong, Alethea.

The decision to leave has been made and the EU themselves are talking about a timescale for our departure. There's no decision next week - they're going to elect a new Prime Minister who will then aim to start the countdown to our departure when elected in October, if the EU haven't decided for us first.


And yet with certain things coming to light since the results (such the whole £350+ mil that could be transfered to the NHL being completely false, but supposedly being one of the main reasons behind the leave vote) does the possibility exist that such a decision might be reversed? Everything we're hearing here says that this vote is not legally binding. Obviously Cameron's decision to resign as a result makes things a bit more complicated...


Oh, I get that. And I understand it. But if a lot of the votes were based on promises that are being revealed to have been false immediately following the election, would it not be beneficial to call for a revote and see if that remains? Just curious what the reactions might be on your side of the pond.

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24 Jun 2016 18:04 #246337 by Edan
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You'd have to have another referendum to decide if people's minds had been changed.. Not going to happen.
I can't believe anybody really thought all that money would only go to the NHS (the £350m figure was wrong anyway)...

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24 Jun 2016 18:08 #246339 by Avalon
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I guess that's what I was asking... what's the possibility that there will be an outcry for another referendum and that it would actually happen? Since, if as I've read, the first is not legally binding, would a second be possible? Would it even matter? I've also seen that people are claiming the margin to leave against to stay is so small, given the voter turn out, that the possibility of an actual majority desire to stay exists. It just seems like the whole thing is still very much up in the air... at least from where I sit.

That said, back to the OP... I do have to agree with Edan that's very much an extreme way to look at things... and a bit borderlining of fear spreading propaganda, in my opinion ... :dry:

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24 Jun 2016 18:46 #246355 by
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Happy Independence Day to everyone in Britain !!! Finally we can have a country free from the bureaucratic system they call the EU. :) :) :) One step closer to a better world. may the force be with you all.

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24 Jun 2016 18:59 - 24 Jun 2016 19:00 #246356 by
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If every time a politician was revealed to have lied to win an election we got to revote, we'd be in a state of continual voting.

They won. That's it. Now we have to deal with the consequences of that decision.
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24 Jun 2016 20:39 #246369 by Amaya
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I voted to leave and am happy we won.
And no offence but almost everyone I know voted to leave the EU, personally here it was a victory.

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