Domestic Abuse

https://youtu.be/dtVHnZX8E50

Any thoughts about this?

Why are people prepared to intervene when a woman is suffering abuse, but not when men are the victim?

tzb wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B16dTOWaZU

Any thoughts about this?

Why are people prepared to intervene when a woman is suffering abuse, but not when men are the victim?

I think it has a lot to do with how we as a society view women and men differently. We see men as someone who is suppose to be strong and protector of his home and we view women as the opposite. Even when we are faced with abuse we think a man should be above it which is totally wrong. Abuse comes in my forms and it doesn't matter what sex you are.

Because people often see the man as "the strong" the one that is capable of everything, that he doesn't need help, and although women always say the they want to be independent there are woman who still see themselves or other women as in need of someone else, I don't think that we should overlook at problems like these, because domestic abuse is something that men and women suffer, we should stop the abuse no matter if is the victim is male or female

in all likelihood, either one of those men could beat that woman to death if they really wanted to and if no one interfered

the idea that he is helpless to her violence is instinctually absurd because he is not physically helpless to her violence

he maybe psychologically helpless

which would accurately be interpreted as mental weakness

but the (usually correct) expectation is that he can overpower her if it becomes necessary, therefore that he is essentially a willing victim

OB1Shinobi wrote: because that man could beat that woman to death if he wanted to and if no one interfered

te idea that he is helpless to her violence is instinctually absurd because he is not physically helpless to her violence

I disagree, because this man in specific might not be helpless, but there are man who are, if we kept the idea that man has always more strength than woman then we will find this same problem over and over again, that people won't care that men gets abused only because they're "stronger" being a man is not the same as being stronger than everyone else, there are many cases where the man has been abused physically and psychologically and he was unable to stop the woman because he had not the mental and physical strength

OB1Shinobi wrote: in all likelihood, either one of those men could beat that woman to death if they really wanted to and if no one interfered

the idea that he is helpless to her violence is instinctually absurd because he is not physically helpless to her violence

he maybe psychologically helpless

which would accurately be interpreted as mental weakness

but the expectation is that he can overpower her if it becomes necessary, therefore that he is essentially a willing victim

Actually there are men who are physically helpless to a woman's violence. Not all blokes can fight or defend themselves.
Sometimes they also choose not to.
But the idea that people get involved if a woman is attacked is not so true either.

@ Vako
you can disagree but i watched the footage and even the smaller of those two men is significantly more powerful than that woman

have you ever wrestled with a girl?

theyre cute and fun and yeah you should tale it a little easy, even let them win some, but theyre GIRLS lol

yes there are some women who are stronger than some men

there are also some cats that are bigger than some dogs

there are fish that walk on land and there are cars that go into the water like boats

but men are physically stronger than women just as dogs are physically bigger than cats

the exceptions are EXCEPTIONS

@ elizabeth

im not saying its ok to be abusive and im not saying that there are no situations where women abuse men

im only answering the questions "why are people quicker to help a woman being hit by a man?"

and if we just speak generically by the averages, average man who cant fight is still more than a match for the average woman who cant fight

OB1Shinobi wrote: if we just speak generically by the averages, average man who cant fight is still more than a match for the average woman who cant fight

So... is your argument that a man could generally punch out a woman if she became physical? Or that women are generally incapable of causing pain/hurt/whatever to men, except in exceptional circumstances?

OB1Shinobi wrote:
have you ever wrestled with a girl?

First of all, no I haven't "wrestled" but I have fight with many, I practice martial arts, and I know what a woman is capable of, I know women can be stronger than me in all aspects

OB1Shinobi wrote: theyre cute and fun and yeah you should tale it a little easy, even let them win some, but theyre GIRLS lol

Second of all, there is that mentality again, to believe that women are weaker than men only because they women is to fall in ignorance, why you should judge only in appearance, how do you know that that little girl can't beat you up? because she is little and a girl? well, then it seems that you're the one who haven't fight with one

OB1Shinobi wrote: @ Vako
you can disagree but i watched the footage and even the smaller of those two men is significantly more powerful than that woman

have you ever wrestled with a girl?

theyre cute and fun and yeah you should tale it a little easy, even let them win some, but theyre GIRLS lol

yes there are some women who are stronger than some men

there are also some cats that are bigger than some dogs

there are fish that walk on land and there are cars that go into the water like boats

but men are physically stronger than women just as dogs are physically bigger than cats

the exceptions are EXCEPTIONS

Physical strength doesn't really mean a lot when it comes to abuse. I've seen small ladies beat the crap out of bigger dudes because they are knowledgable and know where to attack. Look at Ronda Rousey, Holly Holm or other lady MMA fighters. Or just look at our women soldiers; those women are beasts!

Also I've seen the damage verbal abuse can do and I think it's even worse than the physical abuse. I've seen grown men brought to tears because their girl walked all over them.