Could civilization as we know it collapse soon?

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18 Mar 2015 15:32 #184677 by steamboat28

Goken wrote: Ah, but blades don't need reloaded. B)


Well, we're also working on a forge. As a swordsman and an archer who can fletch, i'm really just trying to go for the hat trick.
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18 Mar 2015 15:36 #184679 by
Nice. I think I'll add you to the pick-up list WSHTF. :laugh:

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18 Mar 2015 15:56 #184681 by
Change is constant. We can allow it, flow with it or be changed by it. Or I like to say, " you can watch the bus go by, you can get on the bus or you can get hit by the bus, But the bus is coming"

All things change. Is it creative or destructive? That depends on the level of resistance to the change.

Also what are we as people focusing on? Do we want to invite our own doom or do we want to stay alive? Are we focusing on healthy things? Sustainability? Are we saving our own lives with our healthy daily practices?

We can influence any of these changes with our being, thinking and doing. What are we doing to Save ourselves? We are the only things that can save ourselves.

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18 Mar 2015 16:11 #184684 by
Don't forget that nearly everyone at the Temple is already in the top 10% of wealthiest people in the world ($61K in assests or $25K anual income - you own a house) and if you're not there then you'll probably be in the top 15% (have clothes, food, a place to live and reliable transportation (I presume that also means public)), and if you're not even that then $1.5K earned in a year is still in the top 20%. Top 1% (of which there are probably a few here) have at least $500K in assests (a big house).

http://irememberthepoor.org/3-2/

The sorts of end-of-the-world scenarios where we are all dying of starvation are completely unrealistic if you live in a first world country.

We are the elite. And make sure you don't forget that.

Fortunately for all those being alive today we are probably in the best position that humanity has ever been in for preventing such collapse. Take the "elites" for instance, already there are carbon reduction targets being introduced (unless you're Australia in which case your government doesn't care), so there is already proof that the elites are aware of these problems. Hey we might not be doing enough as we could (or rather ought) to do, but neither are we blind.

During WW2 many british people considered it as being one of the best times ever for community action. Britain couldn't import enough food to satisfy demand, so everyone turned their gardens into vegetable gardens. That sort of initiative, from the ground up, can be similarly echoed again if food stuffs become too expensive. For energy examples you already have the Germans far and away taking the lead with household solar panels, and with price reductions in two years time estimated to be at perhaps 70% (purchase + installation) I have no doubt that household energy production will become more common.

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18 Mar 2015 16:16 #184685 by

Akkarin wrote: For energy examples you already have the Germans far and away taking the lead with household solar panels, and with price reductions in two years time estimated to be at perhaps 70% (purchase + installation) I have no doubt that household energy production will become more common.


Just yesterday I was wondering why every building didn't have solar panels on the roof or at least attached in some way. It would just make sense wouldn't it? We don't all have space for wind turbines but solar panels are just that, panels, as in flat.

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18 Mar 2015 16:28 - 18 Mar 2015 16:29 #184688 by Carlos.Martinez3
I have never claimed to be a "preper" but I do claim to think and have things in order and ready at all times. Preparation never goes waisted. Order never goes out of style, regardless is the planet of the apes are at hand or not... minus the apocalypse doesn't hapen and I don't get taken is, i know I'll be alright. Lol

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18 Mar 2015 17:46 #184700 by OB1Shinobi
do jedi pick up the pieces after the collapse or do they prevent the collapse from happening?

People are complicated.

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18 Mar 2015 18:03 #184702 by steamboat28

OB1Shinobi wrote: do jedi pick up the pieces after the collapse or do they prevent the collapse from happening?


Honestly, neither in my opinion.

My opinion on why "prepper" is a dirty word is this: if you learn to live in balance with the world around you as well as you can, then whatever collapse happens will affect you very little, because you'll already be living in a sustainable way (except for maybe Internet access and chocolate runs at midnight).

Being a Jedi, I think, is similar.
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18 Mar 2015 18:49 #184716 by Alexandre Orion
Perhaps 'civilisation' has already collapsed ... ? :blink:

After all, are we really 'civilised' ? :pinch:

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18 Mar 2015 18:56 #184718 by RyuJin

steamboat28 wrote:

RyuJin wrote: with firearms many people tend to forget that in a shtf situation no one is going to be making anymore bullets...


Speak for yourself. This is the reason one of my mid-term projects is a foundry. ;)


yeah but i'm talking about mass production and distribution....i know plenty of people that reload their own casings and make their own bullets...but the quantities are generally small batch...

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