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Talariq wrote: I agree with Oneiros, exile should be an available option. If a person has transgressed to a point that we've decided they can never join society again, simply don't let them join society again.

We did this before.. and now we have the country of Australia..

Edan wrote:

Talariq wrote: I agree with Oneiros, exile should be an available option. If a person has transgressed to a point that we've decided they can never join society again, simply don't let them join society again.

We did this before.. and now we have the country of Australia..

Haha! See, I wanted to say that, but I didn't want to offend any Ausies we may have lurking. Personally, I wouldn't want to send anyone who was exiled to anywhere quite so infested with wildlife that will kill you with no provocation. :silly:

[My apologies if anyone is offended, because it wasn't intentional..] The exile (for those that survived the trip there) could actually be a second chance... that's why it became a functioning country and not a prison.

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Edan wrote: [My apologies if anyone is offended, because it wasn't intentional..] The exile (for those that survived the trip there) could actually be a second chance... that's why it became a functioning country and not a prison.

Tell that to the locals....

ren wrote:

Edan wrote: [My apologies if anyone is offended, because it wasn't intentional..] The exile (for those that survived the trip there) could actually be a second chance... that's why it became a functioning country and not a prison.

Tell that to the locals....

You bring up a good point on exile in general, ren - what people wants to receive another nation's exiles? What do you think may be considerations in doing right by the place they go?

Reacher wrote:

ren wrote:

Edan wrote: [My apologies if anyone is offended, because it wasn't intentional..] The exile (for those that survived the trip there) could actually be a second chance... that's why it became a functioning country and not a prison.

Tell that to the locals....

You bring up a good point on exile in general, ren - what people wants to receive another nation's exiles? What do you think may be considerations in doing right by the place they go?

In my opinion, a large, unpopulated area would do just fine. Preferably an island. Somewhere they could not interact with society again, but would have to provide their own food/clothing/etc... Again, it's a great theory and would work in an ideal world, but this is definitely not ideal, so the logistics of implementing a program like that would be problematic to say the least. :dry:

With something like exile, there is no "coming back". The exiles will eventually have children and such, or give up crime, etc. A smack dealer who's been exiled for 10 years won't have anything in common with a recently-exiled mass murderer. Even if there are no locals, and as such things like what happened to the aborigines are not possible, the problems we have with incarceration would still exist. Prisons could be designed in a way that isn't a criminal breeding center, and heck, I don't know what the big deal is with forced labour, we have community service sentences, which are forced labour, why not have those in prisons too? Inmates that are there for a long time or forever could be rewarded for it. Just because they are not capable of living in society does not mean they are incapable of doing other things.

Edan wrote: [My apologies if anyone is offended, because it wasn't intentional..] The exile (for those that survived the trip there) could actually be a second chance... that's why it became a functioning country and not a prison.

G'day matez, No offence
We don't have much history compared to places like Europe so we take whatever we can get, good or bad.

I'm no expert but it was a penal colony as opposed to a convict dumping ground, with a large number of the immigrants actually being prison guards and military... which was the foundation for society to grow - where upon release the convicts managed to learn to live with (to some extent) their once overlords. Fast forward 200+ years and it could explain why our political system is divided between blue collar (left, union-centric) and white collar (right, business-centric), roughly speaking. I'm not sure if that is relevant to this topic but I couldnt resist being from/at downunder.

Adder wrote: G'day matez, No offence

I thought of you when I said it so I'm very glad it's ok

Adder wrote:

Edan wrote: [My apologies if anyone is offended, because it wasn't intentional..] The exile (for those that survived the trip there) could actually be a second chance... that's why it became a functioning country and not a prison.

Fast forward 200+ years and it could explain why our political system is divided between blue collar (left, union-centric) and white collar (right, business-centric), roughly speaking.

Sadly, I don't think that is just an issue in Australia.