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08 Nov 2014 01:11 #168687 by
Here in the states, a tragedy occurred for a small boy.

warning: disturbing details.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2824121/2-charged-death-boy-hung-feet-beaten.html

the two suspects have confessed guilt. You're the judge and will be passing sentence. What do you choose for them and why?

May victims of these horrible acts find peace; that is my hope.

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08 Nov 2014 01:41 #168690 by
I'm a big proponent of exile. I know that cruel and unusual punishment is forbidden here in the US, but I don't consider exile cruel or unusual. Drop them off at the Syrian-Iraqi border. They obviously have no place in a civilized society. Why waste tax dollars on keeping them in prison or stoop to their level of morality by sentencing them to death?

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08 Nov 2014 02:43 #168694 by ren
yea, in the US you don't consider poisoning people to death cruel or unusual either...

Anyway, I was wondering, as the judge passing sentence, how on earth is someone "estranged" also somehow living with the people they're estranged from? Looks to me like they all have serious mental issues.

Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.

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08 Nov 2014 03:14 #168698 by

ren wrote: yea, in the US you don't consider poisoning people to death cruel or unusual either...


If you're referring to lethal injection, it's not the same as poisoning. None of the drugs used in lethal injections poison the person. Though, one could argue that anything is a poison depending on the dose. Potassium Chloride is just a salt substitute but it's the drug most commonly used to stop the heart. Regardless, it isn't as if criminals are made to swallow a cynacide capsule or something.

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08 Nov 2014 06:12 #168709 by

ren wrote: yea, in the US you don't consider poisoning people to death cruel or unusual either...

Anyway, I was wondering, as the judge passing sentence, how on earth is someone "estranged" also somehow living with the people they're estranged from? Looks to me like they all have serious mental issues.


It's certainly one of the most messed up stories I've read in recent memory.

What would you do as judge, ren?

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08 Nov 2014 07:16 #168711 by
For anyone to commit such a crime I would imagine that they must be mentally disturbed and so should be detained in a secure mental hospital until such a time that they are no longer a danger to others.

If it was proved that they are completely sane then they should be imprisoned, also until they are no longer a danger to others.

I disagree with the death penalty as I find it hypocritical - "It is wrong to kill so if you do we will kill you." To hurt another in defence is ok (to me), as long as the minimum force is used. To hurt by way of revenge I find uncomfortable.

Regarding the costs of imprisonment, I think that a way should be found for the inmates to work so that the cost of housing them is covered.

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08 Nov 2014 07:56 #168717 by
My heart and soul weeps for what that poor boy endured. I have never been a supporter of taking of a life, except in wars (as long as it follows the rules of engagement, etc etc), or in self defense. However, after reading that, I personally feel as though an exception should be made.

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08 Nov 2014 09:32 #168725 by Brenna
A death sentence. Anyone harming a child in such a deplorable manner has no "right" to rights. And the fact that the child had not been seen at school (or presumably anywhere else) suggests that they tried to hide it. IE, knew it was wrong.

Not only are these not people fit for integration into society, they should also be made a very clear example of. And I dont believe that the possibility of mental disturbance is a justifiable excuse in cases like this.



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08 Nov 2014 15:07 #168756 by ren

LTK wrote:

ren wrote: yea, in the US you don't consider poisoning people to death cruel or unusual either...

Anyway, I was wondering, as the judge passing sentence, how on earth is someone "estranged" also somehow living with the people they're estranged from? Looks to me like they all have serious mental issues.


It's certainly one of the most messed up stories I've read in recent memory.

What would you do as judge, ren?


Well I have a somewhat different opinion about what constitutes Justice than the existing judicial system, so I probably wouldn't be a judge in it... :P

These guys would probably get indefinite detention from me. I think there's no way to guarantee people who have done this will not be capable of doing it again, even after "treatmennt" and such. I'd probably put them in a low security place where there's an opportunity to have a life though. Just because they are not safe to live with the rest of society does not mean their lives should be miserable. It's not like they are hardenened criminals.

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09 Nov 2014 04:26 #168839 by
I'd sentence them to be tortured and beaten to death just as they did to that poor defenseless child. An eye for an eye.

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