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09 Feb 2014 04:33 #137132 by Jestor
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pick a rule, there are about 5-6 I think...

See what it is against, then imagine it happening often enough thatcwe had to.make a rule...

If you are referring to the "no.unauthorized teaching rule", imagine unauthorized teaching happening enough thatcwe made a rule...

As I said, it wasn't one case of unauthorized teaching, it was enough that a rule was made...

As to who did it, when it happened, and how many times, feel free to do your own homework and read through the older posts....
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09 Feb 2014 04:35 #137133 by
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Mortose wrote:

Naya wrote: If you're referring to the rule of not bringing your own teachings into the temple, think of it this way:

How well received would a Christian be who entered a mosque and started teaching the ways of Christianity to acquired followers within their walls?

It's a rule that should not have to be a rule... it's common sense (which I've learned is not as common as it should be). Really it's rude and inconsiderate. If someone wants to teach their ways to someone, that's all well and good. But it should either be done in private, or it should be done on their own or another site that shares their views.


I call bull crap! No one told me of any such rule... I was welcomed in full knowledge of my intentions and my nature. If my writings were "outside teaching", it should have been stopped at page one!?


No one told me of such a rule either... I read it here:

http://www.templeofthejediorder.org/faq#RulesTeaching

Whenever you join an online community, it's your responsibility to read and understand their rules before participating. There's no excuse for ignorance to a rule when it is clearly stated.

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09 Feb 2014 04:36 #137134 by
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really i cannot get a straight snwer and i do not seek the obvious rules and give me a post of this unauthorized teaching (besides mortose) and tell me why it is harmful explain it

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09 Feb 2014 04:37 - 09 Feb 2014 04:40 #137135 by Brenna
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Apathy wrote: You all are running around not saying what any rule is, nor where they are stated. If someone cannot find it and see it how are they to follow it. Face it, this is just your way to get rid of someone. Very Jedi like.



Someone didnt read the FAQ :silly:



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09 Feb 2014 04:37 #137136 by Br. John
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I can say what brought the topic over the line for me. (BTW, nobody's been censored or banned. Sometimes a thread is locked for a time out so things can get sorted and reconciled.) I'm looking at it through the perspective of a casual browser or a new member. Someone not familiar with our protocols. Taken as a whole with the language about students, training, masters, apprentices etc and the responses of an apprentice / student - it could easily give the impression it's a teaching of The Order by an authorized teacher of The Order.

That's it. It's easy to remedy.

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09 Feb 2014 04:38 #137137 by Lykeios Little Raven

benedictveritas wrote: really i cannot get a straight snwer and i do not seek the obvious rules and give me a post of this unauthorized teaching (besides mortose) and tell me why it is harmful explain it


I think it has been made quite clear you will get no such "clear answer."

As was made abundantly clear to Mortose and myself: the rules are kept mutable for a reason. Think U.S. Constitution. There is an implied elastic clause here...

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09 Feb 2014 04:39 #137139 by Brenna
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benedictveritas wrote: really i cannot get a straight snwer and i do not seek the obvious rules and give me a post of this unauthorized teaching (besides mortose) and tell me why it is harmful explain it



"I cannot", "Give me", "tell me"

Your inability to understand seems to have little to do with what youre being told. Why dont you try reading whats been said, try the suggestions youve been given. Nothing is just handed to people here. We dont spoon feed people.



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09 Feb 2014 04:39 #137140 by
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That rule can also be found here:

http://www.templeofthejediorder.org/termsofuseandrules

Which is a link at the bottom of the site under "Help" called Terms of Use & Rules

So it is, in fact, located in two places...

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09 Feb 2014 04:41 #137141 by
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You people have no cause, or else why can you not state specific times of it?! There was no teaching, just a question to promote thought, just as all of you had responded to her with!! Hypocrites.

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09 Feb 2014 04:41 #137142 by
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i will never call another master yet i have no qualms about teaching if someone seeks knowledge from my point of veiw it will not be denied no matter what ...i trust people to know when what they read dosent agree with jedi teachings .....the code the creed the tenets they are there for a reason .....if i wanted to learn from them they are what i would be studieing ....not people opinions and thoughts

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