Muammar Gaddafi

This is a copy of part of what I wanted to say in another thread, but it's off-topic so here it is!

it is hard to be as awesome as a brutal dictator and international terrorist .... buy hey im still a novice

Ren signature wrote: For those of you who wonder why Muammar Gadaffi is my avatar:
-He turned the poorest country in africa into the richest country in africa (also richer than Saudi Arabia).
-He overthrew a monarchy and created a unique direct democracy system of government.
-He housed everyone before his own family (that's where the tent thing comes from)
-He near-erradicated previously rampant illiteracy.
-He prevented banks from setting interest rates, his central bank wasn't owned by Rothschild.
-Quite a lot of other cool things like free electricity, free healthcare (including abroad), longest man-made river in the world.
-During NATO bombings, a quarter of Libya's entire population showed up the same day, same place, to show their support to Gadaffi. No police, no army to control the crowd, yet there was less blood than at a peta rally.
A great man.

Until recently Gdaffi was not known as a terrorist, as a dictator or an oppressor. Then he announced he'd be trading oil for gold instead of paper currencies, which eventually lea to his death. He was known as the king of king, supported single travel area in africa, single currency, was a huge supporter of the african union, made this famous speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKMyY2V0J0Y

Those critics you believe in are the same people who say he mismanaged libya' oil wealth: libyans got a direct cut from it directly into their personal bank accounts, were the richest people in africa (richer than saudis as well, the largest oil exporter in the world), they [strike]have[/strike]had some awesome infrastructure, free education, free healthcare, free electricity...

I was hoping that this reply was forthcoming ...

I completely agree.. Gaddafi was a great person. So was Shah(Persian Kings) and perhaps other dictators! ( not all of them)

Here are some other thing you forgot about Gaddafi:
~He increased the education rate.
~He gave free house to any new married couple.

But as those who work on mine fields(!) say:

First mistake, last mistake.

Any time that one, and most certainly a leader, does something to jeapordise on a local or national scale the power of the petroleum (energy), agra-business (food), pharmaceutical (health care) or banking cartels/multi-national corporations/oligarchies, one is most certainly mediatised as a despot.

Public hatred is cheap and easy to buy.

How many free energy researchers/inventors, from Tesla through today, have been shut down, ruined and ridiculed as crack-pots ? How many effective treatments for severe, often fatal, diseases have been banned and their discoverers labelled quacks ? How many millions labour every day for the benefit of banks which have invested nothing real into the sources of debt ?

There is hope, for people are beginning to realise this. But paradigm shifts are not that rapid ; they take a generation or two. Let's just hope that more leaders come about who will have les couilles to say "NO" to the powerful and the wherewithal to avoid their financial hit-men ...

When I hear/read his name I think of this:

There was a time when Qaddafi’s Libya was one of the world’s foremost sponsors of terrorism. Throughout the 1980s, Libya had its hands in terrorism all over the world. Qaddafi made common cause with just about any terrorist organization that asked for his assistance. The most notorious Libyan-sponsored terrorist attack during Qaddafi’s terror-sponsoring heyday was, of course, the Pan Am 103 bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland.

Temptation is to say : "unsubstatiated"

Could you reference the source, Rickie ?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Libya

Yes, the courts never really proved anything, some have suggested a stitch-up , and either way, libya isn't gadaffi and gadaffi isn't libya. He criticized aspects of the political structure he himself put in place (at some point the different councils were constantly spying on each other and engaging in questionable activities).
While libya supported the IRA, which isn't something I agree with, they weren't the only ones... The US did so too... And it'ss not like Libya didn't agree to compensate victims of bombings it was accused of perpetrating. Compare that to what the CIA does....

their central bank and their oil was state owned. the "rebels" reorganized a new central bank in no time and libya became only able to sell oil if it wasn't done through the state-owned oil company...

Sounds like a well orchestrated "rebellion" to me... Clearly if the average rebel can put together a central bank while they're still fighting, libyans must be the most intelligent people on earth, right?

Alexandre Orion wrote: Temptation is to say : "unsubstatiated"

Could you reference the source, Rickie ?

You never heard of any of this?

Donkey wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Libya

Did you actually read it?