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13 Nov 2014 22:40 #169677 by Amaya
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So, this is a place to rant about whatever, but you don't want feedback or advice, or discussion on rants?
You want to shout and then?
You can express frustration and anger at anytime, in your journal or just scream it out aloud.
How exactly does this help? You personally or the people reading it?
This is not what should be done here, a rant area is just an excuse to give in to negative feelings and no offense but what church anywhere, would allow an area to be used in this way?
Personally I think it's a stupid idea
My rant !!!
Any feedback is welcome

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13 Nov 2014 22:45 #169679 by rugadd
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Its about having a place to blow off steam. There are plenty of threads for intelligent discussion about personal problems people need help with.

Expressing frustration in and of itself is not a bad thing and the rules I set down were to prevent petty bickering and hurt feelings.

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13 Nov 2014 22:47 #169681 by rugadd
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Oh, and the Temple lets people rant all over its forums all the time.

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13 Nov 2014 22:55 #169685 by Alexandre Orion
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Well ... I don't know. :unsure:

Would it really be so much different the the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem ? After all, it was stipulated "no names" and besides, it isn't necessarily limited to ranting 'about' things going on in the TotJO ...

This sort of thing could have the express benefit of showing others that we do indeed get stressed, frustrated, pissed off, scared, outraged, sad, and all the other things we try to cleverly express by bashing other people (not the best way, of course). There is something comforting in knowing that we are not alone in our suffering ; others suffer too. The 'reasons' underlying it may be diverse, but it is something that we all share.

Just remember -- basically all of these stresses we'll be vomiting up here have two basic questions at their root :
  • "What am I afraid of ?"
  • "Whose fault is it ?"

Go ahead and spleen away here ... But remember the rules. No name calling, no snarky-ness ... Okay ?

B) Betch'all can't do it ...

How's that for a rant ? :P

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13 Nov 2014 22:56 #169687 by Amaya
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How exactly are you gonna enforce those rules?
And expressing frustration is fine, but without discussion or feedback nothing will change and those frustrations will just fester.

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13 Nov 2014 23:00 #169690 by rugadd
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I have no authority to enforce rules..I'm not going to try anymore.

I ask as a courtesy.

If you see a problem you can help with, PM the person and discuss it with them.

Is that to much to ask?

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13 Nov 2014 23:02 #169691 by Zenchi
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Alexandre Orion wrote: Well ... I don't know. :unsure:

Would it really be so much different the the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem ? After all, it was stipulated "no names" and besides, it isn't necessarily limited to ranting 'about' things going on in the TotJO ...

This sort of thing could have the express benefit of showing others that we do indeed get stressed, frustrated, pissed off, scared, outraged, sad, and all the other things we try to cleverly express by bashing other people (not the best way, of course). There is something comforting in knowing that we are not alone in our suffering ; others suffer too. The 'reasons' underlying it may be diverse, but it is something that we all share.

Just remember -- basically all of these stresses we'll be vomiting up here have two basic questions at their root :

  • "What am I afraid of ?"
  • "Whose fault is it ?"

Go ahead and spleen away here ... But remember the rules. No name calling, no snarky-ness ... Okay ?

B) Betch'all can't do it ...

How's that for a rant ? :P


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13 Nov 2014 23:37 - 13 Nov 2014 23:38 #169696 by Brenna
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Ok. I’ve been mulling over how best to express this. And please bear in mind that I’m approaching this from both a professional AND personal perspective because my personal trigger response mechanism to stress is also anger.

On a basic level, the problem is that focusing on the "being angry", makes you angry. When you rant, one of two things might happen. It may be a sense of “flapping” as Jestor likes to call it, a release of excess energy that reduces the feeling of anger and irritations. (which frankly is more effective when done in physical activity rather than mental)

Or (and more commonly)

The process of ranting helps to strengthen the trigger/response mechanism about a particular topic. Essentially, the more you rant about a thing or topic, the more likely you are to get angry about it in the future because you’ve reinforced a thought pattern and its subsequent physiological and emotional response.

A study done last year at the Department of Human Development, University of Wisconsin on the rise of “ranting sites” stated “Decades of research have shown that venting, far from releasing anger, actually makes it worse. Not surprisingly, this study has shown that online ranting seems to increase anger and is associated with anger-related problems.”

From a personal perspective, being angry is more often than not my primary response when I feel out of control. Whether it’s when dealing with people (who are being dumbasses!) or circumstances (which really don’t friggen work for me!). The experience of being angry and ranting gives me a false sense that I’m “doing” something about it. Almost as though the significance of my anger is the same as taking action. And all it does is raise my cortisol and sensitize the trigger for the next time my mind recognizes a situation and puts it in the category of “getting pissed in 3…2…1..”

Which is why at the time, ranting feels good because youre “doing something” about it. But in the long term makes it easier to get angry, and less likely that you'll investigate the underlying issue.



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13 Nov 2014 23:44 #169697 by Amaya
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I like what you said Bren
But you know what no one is listening.. Cause wouldn't want to upset people, let them rant.. Fuck it
This place is a fucking joke!!!!

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14 Nov 2014 00:00 #169698 by
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Perfectly put Brenna. There are more constructive ways of dealing with emotions.

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