Rants far and wide

Kitsu Tails wrote: For me, It is a wonderful release to simply spit out whats troubling me in a safe and supportive environment and then let me move on. I think it is more harmful to stagnant yourself and your emotions rather than constructively letting it go.

Acting on it by ranting isn't the same as letting it go, but rather the opposite.

Kitsu Tails wrote:

steamboat28 wrote:

Brenna wrote: “... Not surprisingly, this study has shown that online ranting seems to increase anger and is associated with anger-related problems.”

That's probably because you don't get to throw things at people on the Internet. Trust me, if there were a universal law that forced you to install a USB-powered Nerf turret , a webcam, and remote trigger software with every Internet connection, I think this would no longer be the case. Imagine the healing power of being so angry at someone that their computer takes a picture of it shooting them in the nose with a foam dart and then emails it to you.

*Giggles*

Personally I am not a fan of basing human emotion and behaviors on "Studies" For some people it may not be helpful and may just cause more problems. For me, It is a wonderful release to simply spit out whats troubling me in a safe and supportive environment and then let me move on. I think it is more harmful to stagnant yourself and your emotions rather than constructively letting it go.

LOL

"studies" haha. you're so funny.


However, from what you've written I'm not sure you actually got what I am saying. The "studies" discuss the concept of catharsis as a poor method of anger management. Nowhere did I or those "studies" advocate suppression. Catharsis is also a very different concept to verbalization on issues with a view to resolution.

Oneiros wrote: Acting on it by ranting isn't the same as letting it go, but rather the opposite.

In your opinion. Which is not fact.

I just hate it when people complain about someone else's thread.

ren wrote: I just hate it when people complain about someone else's thread.

Ah...hahaha...I see what ya did there.

Kitsu Tails wrote: This is a church isn't it? With supposed bishops and Religious heads, yes? So why not open up a "Confessions" e-mail where you can constructively rant out your troubles to someone supposedly certified to handle such things?

Theres not an email (i dont think...) but most people use PM or skype to talk to the clergy when they need to. Though, they dont let you just spew, some actually expect you to work on doing something about it

"supposedly certified to handle such things" - care to elaborate?

There is an email address...

Or was...

I'm looking to see if its still active....

Brenna wrote:

Kitsu Tails wrote: This is a church isn't it? With supposed bishops and Religious heads, yes? So why not open up a "Confessions" e-mail where you can constructively rant out your troubles to someone supposedly certified to handle such things?

Theres not an email (i dont think...) but most people use PM or skype to talk to the clergy when they need to. Though, they dont let you just spew, some actually expect you to work on doing something about it

Which is why i was making it a suggestion.

"supposedly certified to handle such things" - care to elaborate?

What is there to elaborate on? I am pretty sure my words were quite clear. But as you wish.

Supposedly = According to what is generally assumed or believed IE: I am not sure as I am just a novice here and don't know the manners of religious order and actions here at TotJO.

Certified = Trained to aide in counseling/priest/confession

....to handle such things. (See Certified)

Kitsu Tails wrote:

Brenna wrote:

Kitsu Tails wrote: This is a church isn't it? With supposed bishops and Religious heads, yes? So why not open up a "Confessions" e-mail where you can constructively rant out your troubles to someone supposedly certified to handle such things?

Theres not an email (i dont think...) but most people use PM or skype to talk to the clergy when they need to. Though, they dont let you just spew, some actually expect you to work on doing something about it

Which is why i was making it a suggestion.

"supposedly certified to handle such things" - care to elaborate?

What is there to elaborate on? I am pretty sure my words were quite clear. But as you wish.

Supposedly = According to what is generally assumed or believed IE: I am not sure as I am just a novice here and don't know the manners of religious order and actions here at TotJO.

Certified = Trained to aide in counseling/priest/confession

....to handle such things. (See Certified)

*nod* makes sense.

So you feel that speaking with someone who is certified in counseling training is potentially a good method of helping people deal with emotional stuff?

Brenna wrote:

Kitsu Tails wrote:

Brenna wrote:

Kitsu Tails wrote: This is a church isn't it? With supposed bishops and Religious heads, yes? So why not open up a "Confessions" e-mail where you can constructively rant out your troubles to someone supposedly certified to handle such things?

Theres not an email (i dont think...) but most people use PM or skype to talk to the clergy when they need to. Though, they dont let you just spew, some actually expect you to work on doing something about it

Which is why i was making it a suggestion.

"supposedly certified to handle such things" - care to elaborate?

What is there to elaborate on? I am pretty sure my words were quite clear. But as you wish.

Supposedly = According to what is generally assumed or believed IE: I am not sure as I am just a novice here and don't know the manners of religious order and actions here at TotJO.

Certified = Trained to aide in counseling/priest/confession

....to handle such things. (See Certified)

*nod* makes sense.

So you feel that speaking with someone who is certified in counseling training is potentially a good method of helping people deal with emotional stuff?

Yes. And so do many others.... since you know, Counseling and priests who take confessions are quite common. Speaking for myself, yes. I do.

Kitsu Tails wrote:

Brenna wrote:

Kitsu Tails wrote:

Brenna wrote:

Kitsu Tails wrote: This is a church isn't it? With supposed bishops and Religious heads, yes? So why not open up a "Confessions" e-mail where you can constructively rant out your troubles to someone supposedly certified to handle such things?

Theres not an email (i dont think...) but most people use PM or skype to talk to the clergy when they need to. Though, they dont let you just spew, some actually expect you to work on doing something about it

Which is why i was making it a suggestion.

"supposedly certified to handle such things" - care to elaborate?

What is there to elaborate on? I am pretty sure my words were quite clear. But as you wish.

Supposedly = According to what is generally assumed or believed IE: I am not sure as I am just a novice here and don't know the manners of religious order and actions here at TotJO.

Certified = Trained to aide in counseling/priest/confession

....to handle such things. (See Certified)

*nod* makes sense.

So you feel that speaking with someone who is certified in counseling training is potentially a good method of helping people deal with emotional stuff?

Yes. And so do many others.... since you know, Counseling and priests who take confessions are quite common. Speaking for myself, yes. I do.

Even though the training that certified counselors undergo in order to hold that qualification is based on our understanding of human emotions and behaviors that comes from decades of "studies"?

I used to PM Jestor and rant from time to time. And he never gave me advice or what to do, he just listened.

It was nice.

I would eventually work out what ever issue I had and tell him about it later and he would just say something like, “that’s good.” And smile.

When this thread first started I envisioned it being something like that, but for the public. I should have known it would become a pissing contest to see who is right and who has the better opinions.

My rant is, why in the hell do we have to Butt heads at every corner over every little thing? It just seems so pointless. Is it good for me to rant? Probably not. Did I hurt someone’s feelings? Most likely. And you know what? Sometimes I think we all need a little slap in the face as a wakeup call.

Go ahead, complain and argue away… prove me wrong.

Okay, I guess I’m done.

I was listening, and smiling....

Jestor wrote: I was listening, and smiling....

Aren't you always?

Good luck getting that confession, the line starts over here BTW...

I think...
I am having a hard time right now...
The one person who I counted on to always listen...
We''re separated now.
I have been very lonely and feeling no-one else new what I was going through. Then I made an off comment thread about how some people just needed to blow off steam and maybe we should have a place for that so the rest of the threads could enjoy a little more peace and constructive discussion.

I ... Was happy at the response to this...
I thought maybe everyone else needed a place like that...like me.
A few simple rules to keep fights from breaking out or hurt feelings and we would all have a place we could go to where somebody would listen...even if it was just a moderator.

But that was expecting too much and I was a fool. It became every other thread.

rugadd wrote: But that was expecting too much and I was a fool. It became every other thread.

Honestly, rugadd, I'm going to disagree with you. You were not expecting too much. You were expecting the bare minimum of respect that we, as people, as humans, as Jedi, should show other people.

It was us that screwed up.

rugadd wrote: I think...
I am having a hard time right now...
The one person who I counted on to always listen...
We''re separated now.
I have been very lonely and feeling no-one else new what I was going through. Then I made an off comment thread about how some people just needed to blow off steam and maybe we should have a place for that so the rest of the threads could enjoy a little more peace and constructive discussion.

I ... Was happy at the response to this...
I thought maybe everyone else needed a place like that...like me.
A few simple rules to keep fights from breaking out or hurt feelings and we would all have a place we could go to where somebody would listen...even if it was just a moderator.

But that was expecting too much and I was a fool. It became every other thread.

You know, there is no reason why you cant still do that.

And Im going to disagree with Steam here. Threads are organic. They change. Journals are set aside for the purpose of speaking without interference. The forum is not.

In all seriousness though.

If you want someone to just listen, there are many in the temple who cherish the opportunity to offer a safe haven for people to talk out what they are going through. Myself included. Reach out if you need to.

Brenna wrote: If you want someone to just listen, there are many in the temple who cherish the opportunity to offer a safe haven for people to talk out what they are going through. Myself included. Reach out if you need to.

I second that (unless someone beats me to it before I click submit...then I'll take third or...whatever).

There's no need to create threads to blow off steam or rant when you can be honest and open with us about what's going on in your life. You've got a pretty good support system here.

%$#&@*! I HATE IT WHEN MY MEGAFRAKKIN' PHONE JUST SITS THERE GOIN' *DUUUUH* WHEN I WANT IT TO DO WHAT I FRAKKIN' *TOLD* IT TO DO, LIKE FIVE FLIPPIN' MILLENNIA AGO!! THE TECHIES WHO MADE IT ARE SODDIN' GOBSHITES WHO DON'T KNOW THEIR ARSES FROM THEIR ELBOWS AND BLEEDIN' TWAGGITS WITH THE COLLECTED BRAINS OF A SINGLE SEEDLESS GRAPE!!

*sigh* Wow... that felt good!

Thanks - I needed that lol