Official Notice of Resignation

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14 Mar 2018 01:48 #318628 by Tellahane
To the Temple of The Jedi Order,

I've been here a few years now, started as a guest, registered as a member. I spent time like most of you at that point arguing about what Jediism is, what it should be, what the temple should be and so on. After listening to some advice I decided to go through the IP. During of which I learned of quite a few things about myself but also some better perceptions of the world. I started down the road of attempting my first meditations, and many failures leading up to actually having one. I started to better connect with my envrionment, had a few eureka's and epiphanies about life, had a whole new perception of the world around me, and what some of us might call the "force". Mostly it was the start of a path for myself, a big change.

I finished the IP, and found a good connection with one of my graders and started an apprenticeship. We learned quite a bit from each other, challenged some of my ideals and views, grew to further think outside the box on things, and learned to better be open minded and understanding. Focused a lot on the Tao side of things and how those lessons can be applied to Jediism, how we should behave as Jedi and what our goals in life should be. Even wrote a fairly nice document per those who have read it. From there and getting into a regular meditation cycle I became quite the pupil, made it through my knighthood interview and into a knight rank.

That's when It started to go down hill. There was some discussions in apprenticeship during my time there but they were limited, but getting into knighthood and starting to see all the work that needs done behind the doors, the discussions that ensue, some of the debates that go on, was almost un-real. As any eager knight though you try and jump in and see where you can help out. One of my life long skills of being a programmer fell into the mix and eventually I Started helping out with the website, after a bit of trust was gained. That and some of my perspectives on things also landed me a spot on the council when it chose to expand. When I got to actually see EVERYTHING that goes on behind all doors, and how much work is being done by volunteers it got even more amazing to see how things came to be.

But that only made things worse.

My time spent at the temple at one point used to be spiritual, I was here to learn from those who walked the path before me, I respected them, I took what they said on the merit that they knew more about this then I did, even if I didn't understand it at the time, or even agreed. Eventually I learned most of that was true, I just needed to have a bit of faith, and let things run their course and trust that they were leading me in the right direction.

I would come to this temple for peace, some serenity, occasional drama but never like it has been recently. I think my favorite time frame was spent as a Novice here honestly, apprenticeship was great too but drama started to rear its head in towards the end, in relation to some of the big issues with members at the time frame.

Now that I sit on council I've seen quite a bit. I see members who don't get to spend a lot of time in the forums working the hardest behind closed doors tracking IP students, grading IP journals, reviewing knighthood candidates, membership applications, long lists of moderation reports, monitoring of chats and community, watching over communications with minors, doing site backups/fixes/upgrades, managing groups, coordinating public chats, sermons, private outreach. over a hundred hours a week is put into this temple by council and other volunteer knights combined, all voluntairly.

It's also this same group of people that seemed to be attacked the most, complained against the most, have assumptions made against the most. These volunteers who spend hours upon hours taking care of the plumbing all of you take for granted. That some of you disprespect, that some of you feel "entitled" to have regardless. Hour spent away from familes, hours spent away from personal time, hours spent away from helping others, all for you, to get treated the way some of us have is beyond wrong. Yet you seem not to care(some of you).

I used to come to this temple for spiritual peace, anymore I come to this temple to deal stress, stressful situations, uncessairy situations, blown out of proportion situations. It's unbelievable the things that get complained about on here. We hang on each others words looking for reasons to personally attack each other. We take absence of words as assumed positions or attacks as well. We make big deals out of situations that aren't actual situations, we call for votes and accountability on things that didn't actually happen. Hell we have even made changes to the forums based on these situations which is even worse.

You talk about corruption of council, the only thing I've seen is this council hell bent on trying to meet every one of your demands, while getting attacked constantly in the process. Half of the discussions are spent on how to deal with "Jedi" attacking each other, which should NEVER HAPPEN. People running around claiming the title but not actually following it.

Coming here is stress, managing here is stress, and its all for unnecesairy BS. Seriously the things you guys come up with sometimes is just insane. To the point several council have had to go on 2-5 day breaks at a time to just step away its so infuriating but at the same time still come back and try to accomidate for some reason. The council is so deathly afraid to try and say no or discipline or tell someone they are out of line because everytime they do theres someone else to backlash it in their faces for whatever reason. The millenial snowflake syndrome has made it into the temple as well and its just rediculous from my point of view.

There are people dieing out there, dieing from starvation, sickness, poor living conditions...and we are having arguments and debates about whether someone has the right to say certain words to another person. Some of you have all lost perspective on why you are here, and what it means to be a Jedi. Most importantly I did after having to try and shovel the crap around here in council.

I spent quite a few days this week and last staying away from the temple, and stress was down, life was better, and I got to remind myself whats actually important in life, and how trivial and pathetic some of the complaints and other issues that are so heavily focused on around here are.

It's this recent realization that I've decided this is not the place for me to be. I can do far greater good not at this temple but out in my neighborhoods, my towns, my county, then I can ever do here. Not while this remains the norm, and since the majority of people here seem to prefer the "lifestyle", it's not my place to change it, so don't bother with those speeches. Change doesn't require others, it requires yourselves, and in this case the majority.

As of this post I'm officially resigning my position on council, to be filled as the council votes to see fit, if needed I'm leaving my voting position to Rosalyn, as I feel she best understands my perspectives and interests that were on the temple, until they place an interim or replacement council position.

I am also resigning from assistant sys admin role, so that I can focus more of my time on matters of importance, and actually do some good where it needs to be done.

I am also resigning from the title of Knight at this temple, I'm no teaching master, but I don't believe a portion of the knights here are either, I feel like too many have been brought in based off a need of volunteers and a need to not feel terrible about leaving novices hang out there, this has caused more apprenticeships and knighthoods of people who aren't getting trained at the quality I believe was originally intended. Since there is a lack of a standard it just leads to a slippery slope that has continued to fall. But again thats only personal opinion.

Following all that I also am resigning from general membership of the temple as well. While I believe in its doctrine, the fact the teachings aren't enforced, or even required anymore out of a desire to feel numbers, I no longer feel that this temple is a temple I "belong to". I will still continue on the path set before me, I still believe in the force, and want to regain the strong spiritual connection I used to have to it. In order to do that I need to strip myself of all this unnecessairy drama and get back to whats important in life.

I started out great in this temple, and I am grateful for all the experiences I learned and got to share while I was here, but all the corruption in my life recently and stress and other issues was caused by the temple, not by the council not by the higher ups but ultimately by the members. I know some of you will be upset at this, others will deem this mission accomplished, in either case I don't care really to be honest. But I need to focus on me, You can't take care of someone else if you can't take care of yourself first. There are too many terribly chosen priorities here and for all the talk about corruption it starts with the members and works its way up, not the other way around. Those in council despite what everyone has said have been the most dedicated group I know to be out there trying to keep everyone happy while getting shit on every waking moment of it, and they don't deserve it, any of it.

All that being said, thank you for your time, your patience, and your experiences, thank you for all the fish!

The force will be with you, always

-Tom, AKA Tellahane
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14 Mar 2018 01:55 #318629 by thomaswfaulkner
And may the force be with you, brother. Thank you for everything you've done here. I wish you the peace and happiness you seek.

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14 Mar 2018 01:56 #318631 by
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You''ve given me a lot to think about. I know, wherever you go, you will do what is needed.

May the Force continue to guide you.
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14 Mar 2018 02:01 #318632 by Adder
Thanks for your efforts here, and best wishes to you wherever/whomever gets that benefit next!! May the Force be with you.

Introverted extropian, mechatronic neurothealogizing, technogaian buddhist.
Likes integration, visualization, elucidation and transformation.
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14 Mar 2018 02:02 #318633 by RosalynJ
I'll miss you Tom. I wish you good luck on your path and I wont be far if you want to reach out :)

May the Force be with you

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14 Mar 2018 02:10 #318634 by Carlos.Martinez3
I will miss you

Chaplain of the Temple of the Jedi Order
Build, not tear down.
Nosce te ipsum / Cerca trova
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14 Mar 2018 02:42 #318635 by Jhannuzs Ian
Tom, your Holocron
is going to help the
next spanish generations too

That your harmony keep flowing
and come back when you want
to share about your discoverings,

I am going to keep you a seat

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Life includes suffering, I am Resilient
The Force include my imagination, I extract Wisdom and Harmony
Life includes adversity, I obtain Knowledge
I respect your Life, lets revitalize our Force while breathing
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14 Mar 2018 04:13 #318643 by Locksley
Thank you for everything you've done here, and thank you for all you wish to do to make the world a better place. I hope your path is a fulfilling one, filled with adventure, rest, and joy.

We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile, and nothing can grow there. Too much, the best of us is washed away. -- J. Michael Straczynski, Babylon 5

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14 Mar 2018 05:00 #318648 by
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A Jedi is not afraid to pack his bags and go where they need him , we rarely agreed Tella , but i will miss stalking you ;) Go , go where they need you and be happy !
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14 Mar 2018 07:29 #318661 by
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I hope you find your peace, Tom. May the Force be with you.
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14 Mar 2018 08:40 #318663 by Brick
Tom,

I'd like to personally thank you for all of your time and service to this Temple. I know its not been easy.

I always tell people that they should only stay at the Temple for as long as it is of help to them, and I'm glad to see that you have recognised it no longer helps you at this time and have decided to step back from it.

I will greatly miss our discussions in the forum and your presence in this Temple. You've been a true example of how a Jedi should behave throughout your time here.

I hope this is not the last time I see you here, but I understand if it is. I also hope you know that you're not alone in some of the concerns you've raised.

I wish you nothing but peace and happiness on the rest of your path, my fellow Jedi.

Your friend,

Brian

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14 Mar 2018 08:51 #318664 by Proteus
Thank you Tom. I feel that your time and contribution to our temple has not been in vain and your decision to step down and move on can be as natural, necessary, and transforming as any other phase of your time here.

There is a great deal of value that I feel many can learn from with your approach to your path and the experience you have shared with us. I hope anyone who has interacted with you here can honor this going forward.

:)

“For it is easy to criticize and break down the spirit of others, but to know yourself takes a lifetime.”
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14 Mar 2018 12:17 #318667 by
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May the Force be with you always.
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14 Mar 2018 12:38 #318669 by
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"The millenial snowflake syndrome has made it into the temple as well and its just rediculous from my point of view."

To be fair, some of the people I've seen complaining are about 30 and above, but I totally see what you mean!!

I appreciate everything you have done for this place and definitely agree that this place needs to change. Like you, my enthusiasm here has definitely been winding down little by little the further I go in my apprenticeship but I still hold out hope. In the end, we all come here to better ourselves and if the place doesn't help in your path, then it's not worth following. I wish you the best in your life and in your path, may your connection to the Force strengthen and your life be fruitful and full of happiness.

May the Force be with you.
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14 Mar 2018 12:46 #318670 by Cyan Sarden
May the Force be with you Tom - thank you for everything you‘ve done for us. I consider your stepping down a major loss. And I understand what you‘re saying.

Do not look for happiness outside yourself. The awakened seek happiness inside.
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14 Mar 2018 15:34 - 14 Mar 2018 15:35 #318680 by
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Tellahane,

I’m sorry to see that your training here has failed you so completely. I hope you can find the strength in the real world that you could not find here. You will leave a hole to be filled by the fellow members of your council that have been here for years and fought so hard to make this the place it has become. As one of the membership that you choose to only see the negative in, I for one will continue to support who remains and I will continue to demand the best from them in their choice to serve.

It’s sad that you could not maintain that level of excellence but I understand your plight. From your OP it seems you have always maintained unrealistic outlooks not only in your expectation that others should lead you down your path instead of you taking responsibility for your own path but also in the perception that a person will be dramatically transformed into some mystical super being as depicted in the Star Wars films from only a few months of part time spiritual training here in this place.

This is a place of conflict by design not through unwanted interaction. This is how the membership grows and learns about themselves. It’s not something where we achieve perfection after watching a video or two. It’s a lifelong process and it never ends. But you will also learn this in time as you venture out into the world and realize your encountering the exact same things there that you have here.

My only advice to you at this point is to not let the door hit you on the way out. Thanks for your time and dedicated service and that door will always be open should you decide to return.
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14 Mar 2018 15:37 #318682 by
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Tom,
You and I have worked together a lot here, and it often put us at odds over a number of issues, but every spirited debate I had with you was valuable to me. I fought with you because I respect you and your experience. I respect your wisdom and your willingness to be honest even when you know your opinion in not the popular one. You will certainly be missed around here, and the time and effort you spent helping to keep this site running did not go unnoticed by me. I understand your frustrations and much of our post here rings true to me too.

You are a genuine Jedi, and your Holocron shows it. I reference and reread it often. Wherever you go, someone will benefit from your presence. I'm sorry it won't be this Temple for now, but I hope you will not disappear completely. Keep serving your community and take care of yourself, Tom.

Respect,
~Senan
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14 Mar 2018 16:11 #318683 by rugadd
May the Force be with you.

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14 Mar 2018 16:39 #318685 by
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Thank you for your many years of service and all the help as I entered my knighthood!
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14 Mar 2018 16:41 #318686 by
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Tom, I wish you the best in your journey to come. I appreciate everything you said in your resignation post and all the work you did here. I hope that you will find a place where you can be of service and at peace.

May the Force be with you always!
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